C02 Pellet Pistols and Partridge

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The amount of times I've gone home empty handed and feeling defeated is probably not to different then anyone else. What makes it even more painful is the amount of grouse i see and pass up during a deer hunt.

Now i could lug a .22lr with some shorts on top of my deer rifle but, I find that's too much on top of what i already carry in my pack.

So I had an idea recently while hunting deer.

Open carrying a pellet Pistol... wouldn't it be dandy to unholster a small compact tool and tag some birds?

https://www.cabelas.ca/product/2016/colt-government-1911-a1-pellet-air-pistol

What are peoples thoughts on this?

It does not say in the Ontario regulation that it is illegal.
 
You’d probably be better off with a crosman 2240, it would be far more accurate as well as have more power (somewhere in the 420-430 fps range as a 22 caliber). The replica pistols tend to be under powered, in the sub 400 fps range in .177 cal, they’re accurate for paper/plinking but may not be good enough for hunting.
 
We have shot hundreds of grouse and hares with pellet guns... we have used CO2, multi-pump pneumatic and PCP air rifles and pistols, in .177, but mostly .20 and .22. In a small compact CO2, you can't beat the Benjamin (now under the Crosman banner). Note, if you hunt in cold weather, forget a CO2 gun, as CO2 does not function well at lower temperatures.
 
Yeah Hoyt beat me to it. It’s too cold in Thunder Bay for co2 to be viable. You’ll get it all sighted in in the basement, then take it out on the hunt, and watch the pellet bounce off the bird. Or fall short.

Sling shot works if you don’t suck... like, uh... me.

I prefer Mouse farts, or the Hammond game getter. (Essentially firing a little necked down buckshot out of the hunting rifle you’re already carrying).

Here’s the game getter:

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And a link to some mouse farts: https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1335340-Mouse-fart-recipes?highlight=Mouse+fart
 
Also, if you look in your hunting summary on page 24, below the table in the notes section, you’ll see it says “when hunting deer... you may only carry or use the types of firearms allowed.”

While that’s a bit vague, and I don’t know where it says that in the actual Act, most folks take that to mean that carrying a .22 with you is a no-no. Now whether or not a sub 500fps pellet pistol is considered a “firearm” in this context? I don’t know. Although it does say they can be used for hunting on page 23.

Either way, it’s another reason why I like the mouse farts.
 
I don't have a reg book in front of me, but I don't think you are allowed to hunt with a handgun. Maybe since it's technically not a firearm that might be different though.
 
Underthegun said:
I don't have a reg book in front of me, but I don't think you are allowed to hunt with a handgun. Maybe since it's technically not a firearm that might be different though.
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Under 500 fps is not a "handgun," it is a "toy." No restriction on hunting with a sub-500 pistol.
 
I've used sling shots , CO2 powered and pump air pistols . I was pretty good with a sling shot when I was a kid . Now I stick with the pump powered pistols after finding out many years ago ,like kodiakjack , that CO2 powered pistols don't work in the cold . It's legal in Alberta , not sure about other provinces . On a side note , it's amazing how much fun they are during down time in camp .
 
Underthegun said:
I don't have a reg book in front of me, but I don't think you are allowed to hunt with a handgun. Maybe since it's technically not a firearm that might be different though.
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hoytcanon said:
Under 500 fps is not a "handgun," it is a "toy." No restriction on hunting with a sub-500 pistol.
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I believe it is classed as a firearm under the Provincial Regs when used for hunting. It is not restricted nor prohibited.
 
I still see some of the old timers who are resistant to change, carrying a .22LR pistol(discretely) while potting birds when out moose hunting. Some don't even know it's a no-no.
 
trebor2880 said:
I still see some of the old timers who are resistant to change, carrying a .22LR pistol(discretely) while potting birds when out moose hunting. Some don't even know it's a no-no.
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They must live under a rock to not know it is illegal in Canada (without permit).

I wish I could carry my Ruger Single Ten or MKIII for birds and hare... that would be sweet... Oh, Canada...
 
While hunting deer and moose, grouse have been shot with 270, 280, 30-06 and 338 win mag.
A number of years ago I shot a grouse with the 30-06 and was immediately chastised for shooting a grouse as that would scare away all the deer.
Five minutes later I shot my buck and at the end of the day had a grouse and a deer while my hunting friend went home without a deer nor a grouse!
Using one round for a grouse is not really poor economics as it is offset by at least bagging something considering the costs of everything else to get there.
My longest shot on a grouse was 38 paces with the 338 and that was all we saw that day. There were times when if it was not for a grouse in the bag we might have gone hungry.
When you have a camp cook then the 22 long rifle is the best tool.
Tested a chamber insert for the 30-06 that used a 32 ACP. Looked really promising on the first shot at 25 yards as it was dead center. After that there was nothing closer than 3" from center.
 
For this moose season I mostly carried a chiappa double badger .22lr/20g with cb's and hornady slugs.I unfotunatly didn't see any living creatures besides chickadee's and cardinals-except for the snowshoe hare when I was unarmed-d'oh.
 
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