C7A2 Balance issues.

all modern guns are front heavy now a days "with PEQ's, flash lights, optics, M203s........"

Making the rear heavyier is so stupid its not even funny, Unless your a mall ninja or never carry it in the field ;)
 
I find the C7A2 to be very forend heavy when I'm using it, more so than the A1, for this reason I have been glad my reserve unit has not replaced our A1s.

This week however the new A2s have arrived. I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestion for balancing out the A2? Specfically I'm looking at alternate stocks I could use.
Does anyone have any experience with the Magpul UBR?
http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG330/86



just give them to me... i don't care if it's unbalanced and you won't have unbalanced rifles to worry about.

And can anyone think of any actual useful attachments for the tri rail on the front? I'm thinking tactical beer bottle opener.... :50cal:

pfft why do you care if it's useful?
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I carried an A2 with an M203 for several months. It'll definitely change your perspective on the rifle being "poorly balanced".

Either that, or do some more pushups. I don't mean that as a slight. Upper body strength and muscular endurance are important.

Yeh, and also how do you balance the rifle more? Put more weight in the butt so you can carry even more weight? This is not a national match competition rifle.
 
The money thing is a bit of an unrealistic argument. To build a C7A1 into a C7A2, they basically replace most of the upper. If you are replacing most of the upper anyhow, why not just make them into C8FTHB's or C8A3's? That would at least make more sense and come in at comparable cost.

I suspect it's the same reason why the Lee Enfield kept the mag cutoff for so long. The LCMM in Ottawa likely carried a C7A1 in Yugoslavia and therefore everyone who comes after will carry what worked for him ;)
 
We could have done something smart like the US Mil did (M4 with RAS) and went with the 16 inch C8A3 SFW and everyone would have been happy (Infantry, Veh crew, support pers would have a PDW to carry in the timmies line up), but instead we chose a 20 inch green abortion with airsoft special rails, 4 position stock, and a cheap VFG.
 
The money thing is a bit of an unrealistic argument. To build a C7A1 into a C7A2, they basically replace most of the upper. If you are replacing most of the upper anyhow, why not just make them into C8FTHB's or C8A3's? That would at least make more sense and come in at comparable cost.

I suspect it's the same reason why the Lee Enfield kept the mag cutoff for so long. The LCMM in Ottawa likely carried a C7A1 in Yugoslavia and therefore everyone who comes after will carry what worked for him ;)

Nope you can blame the Infantry highers for the 20" barrel "they requested it stay"
 
Nope you can blame the Infantry highers for the 20" barrel "they requested it stay"

But we need the "extra range" of a 20 inch barrel :rolleyes: Im going to get angry the next time I hear "you cant hit anything past 50m with an EOtech", followed by "how do I zero this thing" cause you can totally have an oppinion on the EOtech like that without ever having even used it.
 
But we need the "extra range" of a 20 inch barrel :rolleyes: Im going to get angry the next time I hear "you cant hit anything past 50m with an EOtech", followed by "how do I zero this thing" cause you can totally have an oppinion on the EOtech like that without ever having even used it.

Its not about range but stopping power and at what range the bullet fragments.

you may hit the target but it may not go down if the bullet passes clean through.

P.S. the 1moa EO-tech with the magnifier is GTG :)

The C7A2 is not great by any means, but it is better then the A1
 
I was being sarcastic/bitter in my previous post.

If I hit someone at 200-300m with a 16 inch barrel and it doesnt fragment ill just keep putting rounds into him until his circulatory system depressurizes to the extent he loses consciousness and bleeds out.

I like the EO Tech (i prefer aimpoint but the EO isnt that bad) and C8A3 just what I really dont like is people forming oppinions about something they have had no experience with. I had another idiot tell me once that you cant hit anyone past 50m with a C8 (with the pencil barrel). People who never even used or educated themselves on the EOtech assume it is junk, dont even know how to zero it, then walk around with their BUIS mounted infront of it with the EO tech mounted all the way to the rear.

Oh and dont forget to line your red dot up with your front sight, ugh
 
I've had the 16" vs 20" barrel discussion with several people, and it usually ended with me getting a headache. Unless hell freezes over, I don't see this "20 inch is gospel" nonsense ending sometime soon. Enjoy your privately owned short barrelled carbines on your own time, then gnash your teeth quietly while using the issue rifle and try to avoid saying "i wish i had a..." out loud.
 
Dinosaurs are the reason we have the C7A2 abortion.

What? are you saying the CF doesn't buy the absolute best for for the troops!

My word! Heresy I say !

tsk tsk .....that wasn't the way we did it with Victoria

haw haw haw.

bring back the martini henry and wool underwear i say!

I think its funny you brought that point up
Nope you can blame the Infantry highers for the 20" barrel "they requested it stay"


My dear Dsiwy you see the rifle is for the rifleman how can you have a rifleman armed with a carbine!

bring back the longer bayonet i say by jove!

We could have done something smart like the US Mil did (M4 with RAS) and went with the 16 inch C8A3 SFW and everyone would have been happy (Infantry, Veh crew, support pers would have a PDW to carry in the timmies line up), but instead we chose a 20 inch green abortion with airsoft special rails, 4 position stock, and a cheap VFG.

OMFG!!!!!! is there any end to the blasphamey that is going on here !

ok ok i will stop being sarcastic

I was being sarcastic/bitter in my previous post.

If I hit someone at 200-300m with a 16 inch barrel and it doesnt fragment ill just keep putting rounds into him until his circulatory system depressurizes to the extent he loses consciousness and bleeds out.

I like the EO Tech (i prefer aimpoint but the EO isnt that bad) and C8A3 just what I really dont like is people forming oppinions about something they have had no experience with. I had another idiot tell me once that you cant hit anyone past 50m with a C8 (with the pencil barrel). People who never even used or educated themselves on the EOtech assume it is junk, dont even know how to zero it, then walk around with their BUIS mounted infront of it with the EO tech mounted all the way to the rear.

Oh and dont forget to line your red dot up with your front sight, ugh

the guy that told you that you can't hit anything past 50.....was he a guy that drew his weapon once a year and read guns and ammo alot?

I've had the 16" vs 20" barrel discussion with several people, and it usually ended with me getting a headache. Unless hell freezes over, I don't see this "20 inch is gospel" nonsense ending sometime soon. Enjoy your privately owned short barrelled carbines on your own time, then gnash your teeth quietly while using the issue rifle and try to avoid saying "i wish i had a..." out loud.
you too? funny how that works
That A3 is a handy piece of kit
I have had the c8a3 out to 4 and 500 with an elcan on several occaisions but and would have had it out to 600 in the US but was veto'd on it and drew my A2
 
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As I write this, I'm sitting in my room in Kabul, just near Jalalabad road. G:

On my C7 I have installed:

- Magpul CTR FDE on the mill spec buffer tube
- KAC quadrail with Tango Down rail covers (tan)
- LaRue FUG

SO you have a quad rail and a bunch of rail covers and nothing to go on the rails? Ok then...

LCF
 
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