C8 barrel lenght?

C8 SFW = 15.8" barrel but we don't use it here in Canada. The Brits use it under the L119A1 designation.

All the other C8s have 14.5" barrels. The C8FTHB, which we Canadians use under the C8A2 designation, have 14.5" HBAR profile barrels, but I've seen some with 15.8" HBAR profile barrels during exercises. Actually, most of the C8A2s, if not all, that I've seen had 15.8" barrels...

Edit: But last time I checked, C8FTHBs (C8A2s) were basically C8SFWs without the KAC M4 RAS foregrip. So I'm probably very wrong about them having 14.5" barrels.
 
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Yes you are very wrong,the C8HBAR has a 16 inch barrel,the C8A2 is a different beast, a C8 with a stepped barrel and flat top.

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C8 SFW/ HBAR (depending on who uses it and if it has a KAC rail)
 
P0WERWAGON said:
i thought the 203 has an indent on the barrel, not more material?
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You are indeed correct. However, like Reaper said, go back and look at Hoddie's pics, you'll see that Diemaco managed to come up with a basterdized mount that is bigger and heavier than the regular M203, they then needed to come up with a bigger and heavier barrel to accommodate that god awful abortion.

The CF wanted an M203 that could be quickly put on a weapon without the need for it to be mounted by Weapons Techs. This was Diemaco's answer. It works quite well but the M203 sits much lower, and you have a lot less of the mag to grip.
 
I don't think the CF was familiar with the KAC front QD mount at the time. Therefore the only means available to them was the regular USGI mount with the screws and lock wire.

Or at least that's my impression.
 
But it's the same as the practise ammo, why not use what's out there already, ie. the US rounds. Simple, easy, cheap, proven.. Nooooo, let's come up with our own at triple the cost.
Same as the barrel, why not use the already in existence M4 barrel. Nope let's take a thin barrel and add a sleeve, that should be easy and cheap:rolleyes:
 
sparrow said:
Am I missing something(don't answer that). The regular USGI M203 is super easy to mount and dismount...why a weapons tech?.
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It has to do with how anal the military is. If it needs a screwdriver than chances are that it has to be installed by a tech. We all know how to remove a trigger mech, but god help you if the higher ups catch you doing it.

This anal attitude applies to pretty much everything. Not an engineer or pioneer? Then you better put that chainsaw down, even if you've spent the last fifteen years logging in BC.

FYI they needed a quick disconnect mount because they initially purchased only enough M203's for operational use, so every six months they had to be dismounted and sent to the next unit.
 
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...and now for something completely different.... Good to see Hoddie back safe in the home of the Infidel. Thanks for going and doing.
 
ian - amen,


The other issue with the CF M203 is some rocket scientist came up with the idea that a 40mm bomb could detonate in the M203 using the US mount - IF one fired 600 rds back to back.

Now normally this idea should have been laughed out of school
1) Who fires 600 rds in one fire fight
2) Who does not move between shooting those rounds
3) If you really had to fire 600rds in one fire fight when pinned down - you think maybe you'd be firing that M203 too eh?

So we got the CF drop it 1.5" inches and add 3lbs to the setup.

The one thing Diemaco did right - is make the mount modular -- so the garbage chunk can be jetisoned and the Launcher affixed to a higher mount - or to a rail attachment mount.

The intial Colt M203's the CF bought (and a few KAC ones kicked down from DHTC) where almost all N/S after Op Apollo (IIRC Gunplumberr was on the M203 inspection detail)

The CF 203 mount also has 3 locating pins - (for the bbl nut of the rifle/carbine) where Colt/KAC/LMT has one -- this does serve to ock the weapon in better (but the CF front mount sucks so much ass it really needs to those pins - and its still more floppy than the US version)
 
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