Cable or Trigger?

I've been told that zip ties actually meet the lawful standard for disabling the action and can be used in lieu of a cable lock.

Who ever told you that is way off the mark...

they are used a guns shows a lot but in no way do they make the legal requirements of a trigger lock.
 
guntech said:
I've been told that zip ties actually meet the lawful standard for disabling the action and can be used in lieu of a cable lock.

Who ever told you that is way off the mark...

they are used a guns shows a lot but in no way do they make the legal requirements of a trigger lock.
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The only legal requirements are that it has to be a 'secure locking device'. The fact is that any locking device is breachable with tools. Can the firearm be made to function with a zip tie, cable lock or other device in place... no. Can it be removed by hand, no. Then it meets the vague standard set by the CFC.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm

Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending or suggesting zip tie usage as a locking device. I merely state that as per the law it meets the standard as required. Unless anyone can quote a CFC ruling I'm not familiar with, which is very possible :D.
 
incorrigible said:
30 seconds with a good drill and some freon would disable them both though I would think?
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Skip the drill, freon and 30 seconds. Use a paper clip or tiny screwdriver, pop. You just push the ratchet mechanism up until it is no longer engaged. Once you practice, it's quicker than removing the tiny locks I posted.

Or two vice grips, twist each side, and pop. Wrecks the lock, but it's quick.

The lock laws are there to deter us, not bad guys - so just get the cheapest locks you can.
 
florin79 said:
check out "Visualock". if you want something that's easy and allows you to put your gun properly in its case, then this looks like a good product.

h ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-2vXHjxfyQ
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Cute. So many parts to lose and a funky looking key to impale you while you have it in your pocket! (Just hope it doesn't poke out one of your nuts too!)
 
Kevin M. said:
Combination trigger lock 110%


Nothing ruins a day at the range like leaving the key to your Keyed trigger lock or Visualock at home.
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Good point, that's why I just take my toys out of the safe and throw them unlocked onto the backseat of my pickup and drive to the range. No locks, no keys :D
 
I have ordered all my locks with the same key, both as trigger locks and padlocks that engage a short double looped length of wire rope. Got lots of keys so I can stash them around in case I dont have my keys.
 
Gormley Green said:
Good point, that's why I just take my toys out of the safe and throw them unlocked onto the backseat of my pickup and drive to the range. No locks, no keys :D
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This makes sense to me. I do use trigger locks simply to comply with the regs. I use the inexpensive prong key ones pictured above as I've already posted. As a safety measure, trigger locks are BS and I know it. That my guns reside in a SAFE, like yours, or are in my direct care and control, is what best serves the interest of safety. Safes aren't cheap, but I would urge anyone with kids (who will eventually become teens,,,with friends) to invest in a safe if they can. You'll find the cost brings real peace of mind and safes are an investment that hold their value well which helps.
 
florin79 said:
check out "Visualock". if you want something that's easy and allows you to put your gun properly in its case, then this looks like a good product.
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I ordered some of these and waiting for my order to arrive. The bad news is that the manufacturer may be shutting down production due to lack of sales in the US. I would suggest that if you are interested in purchasing these that you reach out to Wayne at h ttp://stores.shop.ebay.ca/Waynes-Store-of-Many-Things__W0QQ_armrsZ1 to see what he has left.
 
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