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- Southwestern Ontario
Has anyone had any experience with the Summit Impact Type-T by Caesar, i really like the looks of them and would like to try one out, can anyone tell me about positive and negative experiences with them?
Caesar Guerini Summit Experiences?
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CG guns are a bargain but... The factory sponsored guys would change out the stocks for a new gun the following year as the metal was a bit soft for volume shooting. Most have switched to Blazer! The engraving and stock checkering is all done by laser. We Lang who runs CG in the US is the prime designer for CG's success in NA. CG is a nobody in Europe. It is a good handling gun with plenty of features for a very reasonable price. It is not a high volume shooter.
Regards,
Henry
Regards,
Henry
Henry,
Is this gun change thing a fact or just gossip? Do you have details? Most of what or who has switched to Blazer? The guys who are busy changing their stocks? Nobody in Europe? What does that mean? Just not popular in your circle! eh?
I hope that some of our NA shooters who have shot this gun will respond.
Is this gun change thing a fact or just gossip? Do you have details? Most of what or who has switched to Blazer? The guys who are busy changing their stocks? Nobody in Europe? What does that mean? Just not popular in your circle! eh?
I hope that some of our NA shooters who have shot this gun will respond.
hay if you are near Stratford Ont you can shoot mine . had lots of guns . best i have owned .can almost adjust to fit any 1 .most advanced gun for the money that i have seen . no problems yet . save the money , dont buy a blazer . ask this question on trap shooters . com . all positive last time i seen posted . a lot of guys have had guns a lot more expensive really like thiers . can tell you where to get 1 at a good price and not mine . cheers Frank
Caesar Guerini Summit
I own a Summit Limited Sporting and have shot close to 15000 rounds with the gun over 4 years and love the gun. The closing lever is still on the right like a new gun. It is very tight. I know personally people who have more than 50 000 rounds through them and the guns are still very tight. Before buying one I did research a lot and compared guns. I couldn't buy a better gun for the money. Go on Shotgunworld.com and go to Caesar Guerini lovers forum, you will find a lot of info. Nick Sisley which is a very reputed gun writer gave a very favourable review to the Caesar Guerini as well as many other gunwriters. It is one the softest recoilling gun I have ever shot. Go read some of the sporting clays magazine (It did a few reviews on the different models). I find the Beretta guns kick too much and are usually too light. I had a Citori and thought that the receiver was quite thin and looked like tin metal. The Citori can handle quite a few 100 000 rounds without any problems. I am certain that the Guerini will do at least as good and probably better. I dislike when people say things like the metal on the gun is too soft and it is not based on facts rather on hear say. Get the facts right. I would pay more attention to someone who has been in the industry for a long time and tested guns all their lives. What is high volume shooting for most of us?
Most guns nowadays are well made and will endure a lifetime of shooting. The Guerini guns are also prooftested.
Hopefully it helps
jacpor
I own a Summit Limited Sporting and have shot close to 15000 rounds with the gun over 4 years and love the gun. The closing lever is still on the right like a new gun. It is very tight. I know personally people who have more than 50 000 rounds through them and the guns are still very tight. Before buying one I did research a lot and compared guns. I couldn't buy a better gun for the money. Go on Shotgunworld.com and go to Caesar Guerini lovers forum, you will find a lot of info. Nick Sisley which is a very reputed gun writer gave a very favourable review to the Caesar Guerini as well as many other gunwriters. It is one the softest recoilling gun I have ever shot. Go read some of the sporting clays magazine (It did a few reviews on the different models). I find the Beretta guns kick too much and are usually too light. I had a Citori and thought that the receiver was quite thin and looked like tin metal. The Citori can handle quite a few 100 000 rounds without any problems. I am certain that the Guerini will do at least as good and probably better. I dislike when people say things like the metal on the gun is too soft and it is not based on facts rather on hear say. Get the facts right. I would pay more attention to someone who has been in the industry for a long time and tested guns all their lives. What is high volume shooting for most of us?
Most guns nowadays are well made and will endure a lifetime of shooting. The Guerini guns are also prooftested.
Hopefully it helps
jacpor
- Location
- Southwestern Ontario
Well, i dont consider myself a high volume shooter but i put 10 000 rounds through my Citori in the past year, i like it, but i feel that i want a good combo gun, and the only way i will buy one and drop the coin is if its worth it, i tended to lean towards the CG because its available in 30"/34" where the Blazer was only in 32"/34" from what i ahve found, this is helpful information. I am not looking for a high grade 5 digit costing gun, i know the summit combo i looked at new was MSRP around 7200.00, really a bargain IF you can get upwards of 150-200 000 through it with out needing anywork done to it.
I bought a Summit Trap combo this fall, and it is awesome. Lot's of good advise already posted, check out trapshooters and shotgunworld for all kinds of reviews and advise. I am also located in Ontario, if you were in the same area, you could try mine out. I have only put about 1500 rounds through mine so far, and so far I love shooting it.
I have had a LH Summit Limited Sporting for 4 years now and am close to 40,000 documented rounds thru it. 32" barrels that are not nose heavy and I love the balance / handling. No problems, no looseness, no malfunctions, no drama etc, etc, It's not the "Impact" but you get a sense of my experience with the manufacturer. I like the idea of the Impact and if the budget would allow, I'd buy one, though I would'nt have minded it if they offered the lifetime warranty in Canada as well as in the US.
I don't get the statements made by Henry (no offense intended)
"The factory sponsored guys would change out the stocks for a new gun the following year as the metal was a bit soft for volume shooting."
This is the first I have ever heard of such a thing and I'm active on all the shotgun sites. Nor do I understand what changing out a stock would have to do with any metal being soft ?????? Please elaborate as to whom these factory sponsered guys are, what metal is soft that they had to change stocks to overcome and where this has been documented.
" It is not a high volume shooter."
No one here or in the US has had one long enough to hit a million rounds yet, however I have not seen any complaints of any needing to be rebuilt / worn out. It has not been proven either way yet if they are able to take high volume shooting in the sense of that many rounds, but the K, P and B guns that get up there have usually had at the least locking bolts and / or triggers rebuilt.
"Most have switched to Blazer!"
Again whom are these guys ? Did they switch before or after most of the teething problems with the Blazers ?
Tim
I don't get the statements made by Henry (no offense intended)
"The factory sponsored guys would change out the stocks for a new gun the following year as the metal was a bit soft for volume shooting."
This is the first I have ever heard of such a thing and I'm active on all the shotgun sites. Nor do I understand what changing out a stock would have to do with any metal being soft ?????? Please elaborate as to whom these factory sponsered guys are, what metal is soft that they had to change stocks to overcome and where this has been documented.
" It is not a high volume shooter."
No one here or in the US has had one long enough to hit a million rounds yet, however I have not seen any complaints of any needing to be rebuilt / worn out. It has not been proven either way yet if they are able to take high volume shooting in the sense of that many rounds, but the K, P and B guns that get up there have usually had at the least locking bolts and / or triggers rebuilt.
"Most have switched to Blazer!"
Again whom are these guys ? Did they switch before or after most of the teething problems with the Blazers ?
Tim
And it's pronounced blau-zurr, I had that yelled at me by a german guy, who works for FN sports at a gun show.
CG's are great guns, I've heard this soft metal thing and call BS, I know of and have shot several CG's and they are standing up every bit as good as a Beretta or Browning.
I wouldn't quite put them in the league of Perazzi's or Krieghoffs, which I find to be a little more refined and more solid feeling.
That said I wouldn't hestitate to buy one.
Also take Henry with a grain or two of salt, he only shoots the finest handcrafted, french made, custom chapuis d'armes, I've seen it, it is a nice gun but it immediately surrenders to a Krieghoff or blaser, hard to win shoots with a gun that little white flags pop out the end of.
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OOOH, SNAP!Also take Henry with a grain or two of salt, he only shoots the finest handcrafted, french made, custom chapuis d'armes, I've seen it, it is a nice gun but it immediately surrenders to a Krieghoff or blaser, hard to win shoots with a gun that little white flags pop out the end of.
I have a few Krieghoff K-80 Trap guns that I have used since the 80s and recently wanted another trap gun, so I handled a few different guns and looked them up and down. I looked at the Caesar Romeros, the Blazers, but none came close to the Krieghoff for quality, and fit and finish. My K-80s have many hundreds of thousands of rounds through them without problem, so it was a no brainer, I got a new K-80 Trap special combo Pro rib, with the titanium choketubes. All barrels are independently adjustable for POI, and opted for fancy wood, after handling those other makes, the Choice of a Krieghoff was easy.
- Location
- Southwestern Ontario
while im sure the choice was easy to get another kreighoff, but my budget simply does not allow a K-80 trap special, its a wonderful dreamy thought, but a Summit Trap is more realistic to my price range
I prefer the fit and finish of a Perazzi (please spell it correctly). Not to mention the handling. I also have seen Perazzi's break down in competition. That were fixed in quick time by their owners. I have also seen Krieghoff's break in competition that could not be fixed by their owner. Mostly trigger problems.
Ever try to remove the trigger on a k gun?
I've owned a Krieghoff and the trigger mechanism is a complicated arrangement of pins, clips and tiny springs. If any one breaks you are pretty much done for the day.
With a Perazzi it's either a quick spring change taking a few minutes or just putting in a replacement trigger. P-gun shooters often have a spare trigger assembly. K-gun shooters who want the same security have a second receiver.
Krieghoff does make a removable trigger version of the K80 but it isn't well regarded and does not have the superb pulls of their fixed trigger.
As for the orginal question in this thread I know several guys shooting Guerinis whose guns are standing up well and aren't having problems with them.
I always have a couple of spare receivers in case of problems, but they have never been called on in 30+years of heavy use with Krieghoffs. My second choice would be a Kolar, I've handled them all and nothing can touch a Krieghoff. In the case of the original poster, I would go Browning before Caesar.
