Caldwell Lead Sled Solo to sight in AR

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Got a flyer from Bass Pro saying next week they'd have these on sale.

Anyone use them to sight in any gun? I want to get one to seen if i can get more consistency when I zero my ARs and 858s.

Are they ok to run on the ground?
 
Zeroing rifles how you are going to shoot them the most is your best bet (prone in all your gear).
Then confirm point of impact in all the positions you will shoot the rifle (standing, kneeling, sitting, urban prone, supine, off a bipod if you have one, ect).

Save the money on the sled and spend it practicing.
 
I have one but only use it for initial sight in on hard kicking rifles. Shooting .375 h&h is no fun from the bench...

Probably not very useful for shooting your AR
 
Gunnerlove said:
Zeroing rifles how you are going to shoot them the most is your best bet (prone in all your gear).
Then confirm point of impact in all the positions you will shoot the rifle (standing, kneeling, sitting, urban prone, supine, off a bipod if you have one, ect).

Save the money on the sled and spend it practicing.
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I'm inclined to agree on training how you would shoot practically and that's what I do now - but it's on sale for $70, and the thing is, I might be consistently inducing error in my shooting technique that I'm offsetting with how I zero my rifles.

For example, if I flinch consistently and pull my shots low, if I adjust my zero high to compensate for it, that doesn't do anything to correct the fact that I flinch.

That may be fine and good - but what happens if that flinch allows me to make 2" groups with my AR, but, say if I try shooting on a Nork T97 - that flinch might spread my groups out to 4"?

I think if I did get such a rest, I'd zero as I fight, but use the rest after I get my personal zero to see how the rifle patterns WITHOUT human error to see what I can do to improve.

Continuous improvement, player, that's what harbl_the_cat is all about!
 
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I think you'll find that a rifle will shoot a different POI in a freer, shoulder-mounted type of recoil than it will locked down in a goofy lead sled.

Shooter idiosyncrasy aside, this renders the lead sled useless IMO. It's a gimmick... save your $70.
 
Silverado said:
I think you'll find that a rifle will shoot a different POI in a freer, shoulder-mounted type of recoil than it will locked down in a goofy lead sled.

Shooter idiosyncrasy aside, this renders the lead sled useless IMO. It's a gimmick... save your $70.
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I have found that, actually, even just shooting off a bipod or my old webbing buttpack.

I guess 3 ounces of silver would be a better investment.
 
Front and rear bags are more than sufficient and you should be able to pick up a set for less than the lead sled. You don't necessarily even need that much. Shooting an AR from prone using a 30 round magazine as a monopod is a very stable position.
 
I don't sight in my rifles in any position but prone. That said I confirm that my POA is still the POI in all positions. If it is different I fix my position, or record what it takes to make hits.

Urban prone @300? hold 10" high and 4" left.
 
I have one, tried to use it with my AR, here are the issues I have found. The Stock on the AR is too skinny be prepared to make a jig or find a way to secure it from moving in the back. you will have to jack the rear and front rest way up to account for the grip being in the way. Also you will probably need to buy LAR mags if you do not already have one as full length mags are too long to fit. I also did not like the way the quad rail handguard fit in the front rest.
 
Rifle rests of that nature can be handy to have around. Perhaps for trouble shooting, or to compare the results you get with the results of rested.

Can't say I've ever used it for sight in tho'. I do pretty much what's been stated, prone. For sight in, I'll usually get something to rest the handguard on, or maybe use a bi-pod for a bit more stability, but that's about it.
 
Onagoth said:
I use one all my sight in shooting...hard to imagine a more stable rest
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Curious question? Once sighted from the sled have you then tried shooting from various positions yourself to verify POI is true? Conventional wisdom is that most rifles POI is impacted by the hold and how it reacts to recoil.
I've never shot from a sled so I don't know how much of an effect on POI you would actually see.

For me, I sight my ARs in from a position that I will compete with, prone.

When sighting in my bolt action deer rifle, I use a rest, but a support my hand on the rest and the rifle on my hand to give a stable platform that mimics how the rifle will recoil in a field position.
 
Gunnerlove said:
I don't sight in my rifles in any position but prone. That said I confirm that my POA is still the POI in all positions. If it is different I fix my position, or record what it takes to make hits.

Urban prone @300? hold 10" high and 4" left.
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Urban prone at 300? Neat, we should talk about where and why when we get together next.
 
Lead sleds crack stocks & damage scopes, especially in the higher calibers.

Don't buy it... Use sandbags!

Cheers
Jay
 
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