Calgary M14 Clinic- What didja learn ? Debrief time.....

Hungry

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I'm chillin' over at Savage's house right now. Going for dinner ... of course since I AM HUNGRY !!:evil:

Now that many of your are on your way home or in da door, you have had time to process many of the points I've toss at you. What did you learn from yours truly??

Also know that we are planning the August 2008 Calgary, AB clinic and we are still contemplating an Edmonton Clinic IN DA SAME week. The Edmonton , or Spruce Grove dudes are gonna drive me up to Edmonchuk. Gotta do a tour of the Univ of Alberta campus and see if my old house on 112 St. is still standing.

Okay, so what did you discover ? What did you confirm ? What did you want to plan for your M14 boomsticks ?

Let the debriefing begin..... :eek:

TTFN,
Barney
 
Well I made it back up to Edmonton,

Let me be the first to thank Hungry, Savage, and The Shooting Edge.

Hungry the information was great and taught in an excellent manner!!! I learned lots, and I hope I didn't take up too much of the question period.

I look forward to the next clinic, count me in!!!!
I would prefer Edmonton, but it's definitely worth the drive for me!!
The next clinic will be a more advanced one and I feel by next summer I will be up to speed for the more advanced clinic.
Please pass my thanks along to Savage!!!
The Shooting Edge is an awesome place, they let us use the rifle range to fire some rounds so we could use Hungry’s handy dandy RCBS mic.
I also bought a Spec Ops stock for my 870, which I had been thinking about for some time, TSE had the best price I have seen $135.00, EXCELLENT, so for those of you who are complaining that retail prices are not reflecting our strong dollar, check out THE SHOOTING EDGE.

Finally a thanks to all the fellow nuts that were there, the guys were great, I don't usually get to spend my whole Saturday talking about my favorite hobby!!!!
And last but not least,
Thanks Jason for getting my stupid lock off my scout...............

Bill (wcmd)
 
Cheers to all involved for a great day! It was really neat to put faces to names.

I learned the following:

1) Chu wood smells awful, more so when you pry bits off it that weren't previously exposed to air.

2) I need not spend a bazillion dollars to get my rifle shooting to damn near 1 MOA, which is plenty damn good for most of my applications.

3) The CGN contingent is a good buncha folks.

Again, great day, boys. Many thanks. Hope everyone made it home safe. That honkin' crosswind at Red Deer was something, and the horizontal blizzard conditions from Blackfalds to Leduc were pretty cool as well.

BTW, I'm in for August. The sooner we can set a date, the better, as my honey would like to start deciding on vacation plans. Lemme know when you want the cheque, Barney.

Dan
 
My #### is safe

WOW!!!!! My #### didn't fall off thanks to Hungry and Savage!!! Awesome Job guys and many thanks the "The Edge" for the facilities. It was great to put faces to names and even better to meet some of my fellow Nutz. Hungry incredible presentation! As expected from a Patricia! As I say my #### is safe but my brain is melting with all the info I put into it today. you were right Barney it is all about networking! Mike and I talked about hunting grounds for next year and I think I got him convinced to hunt back in Wainwright! I had to go back over my pages and I mean pages of notes while it was still fresh in my mind. Made some more notes and am going to share them with some of my buddies for the right price?!?! I think a large Timmies was the going rate? Sam and Mike Hope to see you guys when I am up in edm. PM me and we will get together and do some shooting! I may have to break down and do some 3 gun with your guys.

Hungry thanks again! You too Savage!! I may just take you guys up on the offer of some CARE packages while I am out of country. If I am home for the Aug clinic next year count me in!!!

Gladius 2 was nice to see you again. take care of yourself. Got to review my notes again and put in some semblence of order so I can pass the info on to my troops in Wainwright. Later
 
Thanks

I concur, Hungry it was a VERY informative session with lots of knowledge being passed on.

I shimmed my gas block, tightened up my gas piston assembly, adjusted my gas nut to see how much I need to grind off for the rifle to return to battery, and picked up many other pointers for the M-14 that will be ongoing projects for many years!

Thanks to Savage for hosting this event and the TSE for providing the facilities. A good day spent.

Darb
 
Big thanks to Hungry, the Edge, and Savage for working to make this happen.

In all, this is an awesome class. It has been said many times before, but this class is well done. If you have a m14 and want to know more about it, get to a class near you. Or make a pilgrimage. Or buy a video.

Today we made the rifle go ping! In the morning, I am going to make it go boom and see what the results are.
 
A Big Thanks TSE JR and to RedLeg and all the staff at The Shooting Edge for allowing us to host the class at thier Facility and to the OSA for letting Hungry come out to instruct the class and many thanks to all those who attended the course it was amazing to see everyone networking at the course like Hungry says dont buy 1 buy 3
 
WOW.
COOL.

The best money I've ever spent and it was $35 and a tank of gas in a Jeep TJ(which by the way suck in a crosswind)

It was great to meet some CGNers and actually know who they are off the board, and to network with guys in around and far from wherever you are. There were some really cool rifles there and a lot of bone stock ones, everyone got to show and tell and see first hand what they liked.

Many thanks again (can't say it enough) to TSE and Savage and to Hungry for all their work time and donations.

IMHO TSE has some great prices on Surefires heyyou and I bought a couple, when in rome and all that:p

As for the clinic.... I think that it is incredible that someone as knowledgeable about rifles and as good a teacher as Hungry could exist in the same body. The layout and the content of the course were amazingly detailed thoughtful and some of the best hands on learning I've done ever.

Kudos to Hungry for the time effort and thought he has put into the life time of work and the passion and dedication for the sport that lets him teach it for as little as he does.

We heard and listened and tried to asssimilate an enourmous amount of information as possible and still had time to tweak our personal rifles and ask questions and more questions and more questions .......... and get answer after answer for them.

I'm really looking forward to being able to do another clinic next year with much more advanced lessons. I'm pretty sure that it will take that long just to get all his knowledge down pat and plan what I want to do for next year.

I just told my wife that we might have a couple of wierd guys with rifles staying over for a while next august, and bless her she just sighed rolled her eyes and said "well I hope the rifles are clean";)

I can't wait for next year, and I'm already going looking for parts and tools.

Thanks again everyone who was there, I know they'll be a lot more PM's shooting around between all of us now:50cal:

The beat thing I can say is that everybody should go out and buy at least two of these and them calll Hungry and harass him into coming and doing a clinic.
It's the best money you'll ever spend.

:(And yes I was the only guy who let an Op rod guide and spring fly acress the room and dent the ceiling:redface:
(don't tell JR, it's just a smalll dent:redface:)
 
Well I can't believe I finally learned an easy way to get the op rod guide off and bolt out (and back in) by feel. As well, using the section of cleaning rod to get the trigger group out was worth $35 alone.

Thanks to Hungry for teaching us and TSE for hosting us. And thanks to Savage for helping me get my gas system back on after I peened the hell out my barrel :)
 
What a great way to spend a Saturday!
Thanks to Hungry and Savage for volunteering their time and to TSE for letting us use their facilities. I've been to a lot of courses/seminars and it was pretty easy to tell that Hungry has done this many times and that he really knows his sh*t! And a great sense of humor, very important!
I also met some great people, willing to help and share their knowledge as well.

I learned the easy way to pry up my trigger guard, remove the op rod and bolt (funny how simple things can become when someone shows you the right way), how to shim my gas block, and the correct length for the gas piston.
I also learned that you don't need to spend money needlessly to enjoy this rifle within it's limitations. Oh you can spend a pile if you want, and if you want a tack driver you will have to belly up, but for the average shooter these things just need a little tuning and attention to detail. If a more advanced clinic comes to Alberta, I'm in.

:D I think I need another one.....
 
I'm in Savage's basement this Sunday morning before 0800 and I'm packing for the flight back to Tdot and Collingwood. My head is swelling. Savage and I are discussing an M14 Clinic SWING through Calgary and Edmonchuk next August. Yes it will be a go.

After great reflection this AM, and overnight, I was just overwhelmed at how much networking was going on after the clinic during the afternoon tweak session. This CGNutz is such a strong community and that was so evident yesterday.

Yes, I did mention that Greentips (we owe him a shztload of thanks) has built such a great community. I never gave him much credit for having the insight to get us going, bringing on really resourceful moderators, striking up decent policies that keep this community a credible one despite all the antics on the Off-topic Forum. Hey, I want to keep counting the good things we have. And I want to keep drawing on the wonderful people that we have here.

Yeah, Greentips, you were with me when I was telling stories about your great shooting... kicked my friggin' ass, too.

Yes M14 lovers, we are now planning the August M14 Alberta clinics. At this point I'm even considering an M14 Clinic Road Trip out to the WET Coast, through the prairies. I don't want to get the SK and MB M14 addicts pumped up, but frankly, the road trip approach is looking more and more appealing.

Again, a hearty thanks to Redleg, TSEJr, Savage for facilitating such a great event. I even bought 2 more .22LR magazines for the Kimber Conversion kit that TSE (Redleg) sold me a month or 2 ago. Another hearty thanks to my now-retired NRA High Power coach who left me this legacy of M14 knowledge on the condition that I never gained a penny for passing out said knowledge and experience. (Tears in my eyes, right now....) He truly knew what he was doing when he held me honour bound to keep passing on this knowledge. Now I'm happy as hell to pass on this legacy to all of you yesterday. I'm holding ALL of you honour bound to carry on this legacy!!! That's why I sold those videos to you for $ 5.00 since that covers my cost of driving to and from Walmart and Zellers to buy the materials, then to burn the CD set that Skullboy generously mailed to me.

We have a great thing going....

Yours in gratitude... Barney
 
I can't wait for next years course. This one was great but I'm sure I forgot more than I remembered.

First of all thanks to Hungry, TSE, Savage and all the guys that were there. It was pretty cool putting faces to cgn handles.

Second of all I have a few nights in the shop ahead of me putting all this newfound knowledge to good use. First a couple of tweaks so my #### won't fall off, then maybe a few tools for the more serious tweaking.

Then maybe I'll replace everything with american parts, spend $500.00 on a match barrel, $20.00 on special grease, and bed the action of my bear gun just to make sure my #### won't fall of for sure.:D
 
Thank you Barney. Awesome information clinic.
The same goes for Savage, who helped us all the way.
I started the tweaking already and I'm looking forward for the advanced clinic. Are you sure 2008 - July/August is soon enough?

P.S. Nice to be able to put a face on some of the names (handles) I encounter on CGN.
 
A big thanks to Hungry, Savage and TSE for putting this clinic together.

It was a HUGE pleasure to learn from someone that is so knowledgeable and passionate about the M-14. Hungry, you are a great teacher and a diamond in the rough.

I am pleasantly surprised in how much I took away from this course and I can't wait for the next one. I am pretty sure this course was the gateway into long range shooting for me.

It was such a great day to hang out with 30 gun nuts, all great guys ( as I suspected :D ). At one point I just sat back with a huge grin on my face as I watched 30 cgn'ers all racking their bolts at the same time, it was music to my ears.

Once I got my rifle home I was truly able to hear the difference in internals. Now when I drop the bolt my baby rings for 4 seconds!! :) I even get a 2 second ring from a dry fire! I can't wait to print it on paper.

I would love to see some networking so a few of us could get together and find someone with a lathe to shorten the pistons in our rifles.

The rest of my weekend was either filled with the ping of my rifle (right now my favorite sound in the world) or the click-click of polishing my trigger group.

Thanks again to all who made this clinic possible.
 
I'm home in Collingwood now. Flight was smooth and 15 min faster since we had the wind behind us. I had lots of time to do some serious reflection:

Flight to Calgary $ 610
Steak dinners at Nick's off the Crowchild Trail $ 38
Shzt eating grin from listening to the many PING Tests..... priceless :evil:

We are the most fortunate CGNutters in the country having RV'ed at the TSE facility for the one magical (every been to Disneyworld/land? :D) day. I loved watching your reactions when I showed you how to open your stubborn trigger guard with the issued cleaning rod seciton.

I was pleased to see how all of you were able to shim your gas cylinder assemblies and then come to me showing how to achieve that final 'snug' tension on the freshly shimmed gas cylinder & lock. When many of you showed me how your lock just tensioned at about 4 o'clock and then tightened really sternly/firmly at 5 and 6 o'clock, I was totally impressed that you were able to make your own shims (Thanks to CockedandLocked, he generously donated the shim making tools) and then install them the way I showed you. :evil:

We got a wonderful thing going here. Get ready for next year......
 
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Big thanks to Hungry & Savage! Bravo!!
Thanks too to Cocked & Locked & the OSA. (I'll be sportin' new OSA badges on my shooting bag and Jacket :))

Good to meet a bunch of the Nutz too. JayT - stay safe and keep your stinger out of the dirt ;)
So far I've tightened up the op rod guide, shimmed the gas cylinder and timed the gas piston. :cool: Can't wait to try her out.

I'll be working on a getting a TIG for the next event. :cheers:
 
The course was really great guys! Thanks for going to the trouble of putting it together.

I leaned that I need more money, I don't need USGI bolt and a Krieger barrel but I want them and that I need to attend the next clinic with more parts and a Vice (The clamping kind):D

Hungry, thank's for the help with that Wretched trigger. A worked in trigger, a good spring guide and a USGI stock will probably go a LONG way as far as my M14 groups are concerned!

It was great meeting all you guys! I'm lookin' forward to the next Clinic ;)

Wally: I'm so glad that you made all that effort to drive from interior BC (Kelowna ? Kamloops ?). I realize it's a long way, but now you have discovered that the energy expenditure was worth it all. Next year, I'll planning a swing through all the Western provinces in August... get stoked...
 
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Hungry, what is the purpose of the 3006 shell in the oh sh1t kit? I remember it made sense to me at the time.

I went out and put 200 rounds through the new pinging m14 today. Much of this was on gongs, but the stuff I put on paper showed an obvious improvement when I compared with the record. I also noticed that the brass was easier to find. It was all in one of 2 meter diameter circles rather then all over the place. I didn't expect that.

Thanks again.
 
carbonrod said:
Hungry, what is the purpose of the 3006 shell in the oh sh1t kit? I remember it made sense to me at the time.
Click to expand...

In an emergency or if you just want to use it...the 30-06 case will help you assemble your bolt at the last step
 
I learned not to work the night before, and sleep through the course at home in the comfort of my own bed :( Yep, I'm still kicking myself in the ass about missing out. But if it's going to happen again this coming summer, I'm all for it. Especially an Edmonton stop. :D And yes, I'll take the full weekend off!
 
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