Call shots, do you use 'em?

John Y Cannuck

John Y Cannuck

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I've found them to be a big pain in the arse myself. With lots of shooting going on, they are often ignored, or, they are mistaken.
We use a "signal" at Moose camp, in addition to out radios, to be sure the guys who might be out of range might know what's going on.
It works like this, shoot moose, fire three quick shots, wait exactly 60 seconds by your watch, and fire one more.
Get on the radio, and tell everyone it's down.
If a guy doesn't answer the radio, someone will be dispatched by ATV to tell him quick.
We usually have only one tag, but in Ontario, we can party hunt moose.
 
usually in my hunting group, if you hear a single loud shot, it means I killed something..
on the other hand if you hear 3-4 shots in rapid succession, it usually means one of my buddies missed one. and then the 60 seconds of silence afterwards is them wondering "I don't know what happened, it was bang on when I sighted it in 3 years ago"


and if there is a shot that sounds like it obviously missed, it is usually followed with heckling from all parties on the radio
 
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redlaker1 said:
usually in my hunting group, if you hear a single loud shot, it means I killed something..
on the other hand if you hear 3-4 shots in rapid succession, it usually means one of my buddies missed one. and then the 60 seconds of silence afterwards is them wondering "I don't know what happened, it was bang on when I sighted it in 3 years ago"


and if there is a shot that sounds like it obviously missed, it is usually followed with heckling from all parties on the radio
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Deer camp. Semi auto rapid fire in the distance :D miss,miss,miss,miss,miss,, pause, miss, miss....
 
For guys not from Ontario. We have only one tag, there are eight guys. We do not want to shoot two moose with one tag, it would be very hard to explain. YES, two moose have been seen at the same time by different parties of the same group!
 
I haven't had a party tag in years, but when I did, the regs stated that all hunters in the party must be within view of each other.

Is this not the reg in the areas you are speaking of.

I can't imagine firing a shot, then another half dozen shots to let people know I got one! Again, different places, different rules.
but it sounds strange to me.

Within view of one another I'd think a simple radio call, or wave of the arm would work. Certainly seeing your buddy shoot would give you the heads up.

The way this sounds is that 8 gys get to go hunt where they want on a party license, as long as they are within ear shot?? (is this true)

Still don't really understand.
 
sealhunter said:
I haven't had a party tag in years, but when I did, the regs stated that all hunters in the party must be within view of each other.

Is this not the reg in the areas you are speaking of.

I can't imagine firing a shot, then another half dozen shots to let people know I got one! Again, different places, different rules.
but it sounds strange to me.

Within view of one another I'd think a simple radio call, or wave of the arm would work. Certainly seeing your buddy shoot would give you the heads up.

The way this sounds is that 8 gys get to go hunt where they want on a party license, as long as they are within ear shot?? (is this true)

Still don't really understand.
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We will be 6 guys and allowed 2 moose this year in the Matane park. The territory that is assigned to us exclusively for our 4 day hunt is about 30 square km's in size.

They give a short info-session when you arrive and they don't mention anything about how close you need to be to one another. What they do tell you is to make sure you take all precautions necessary to avoid what they call a "double-harvest".

Where I used to hunt moose, on crown land, we covered an area about half that size. Back in the 80's we used the signal shot system. Later we started using radios and although you couldn't talk to the guy at the other end of the territory, we always managed to relay information across.
 
In our area of BC we have a Limited Entry "Shared Hunt" system that allows 1 moose to two hunters, or 2 moose to 3 or 4 hunters. No stipulation as to having to hunt within sight of one another, but cautions against multiple harvests, so signals or radio contact needed once an animal is down. Regards, Eagleye
 
See, ya learn something new everyday. and thanks for not telling me to #### off cause I don't know how your regs work, now I've actually learned something.

My last party license back in the 90's specifically said you must be in sight of one another. If you were stopped by CO and your partner could not be seen, you could be charged, as once out of sight of one another, one of you is hunting without a license basically.

I saw a video that was mailed in to the CBC news hour back home once. The guys were showing a great bit of fun moose hunting, and an accidental double harvest.
they shot one moose and it went down, As they talked and hi fived the moose jumped up and started running and they shot it again and it went down.

They then proceeded to the moose, and there were two dead. One cow was shot and fell, the other hopped up after (presumably napping) and began to run. bang, down she goes.

This was a stupid but honest mistake. but the dumbest thing was; The guys were never charged at that point. It was late winter when they sent the video in to the news , of a great hunting trip for the outdoors segment on the news, , and seemed legitimately sorry on the video that two moose were shot.

After it was played, CO's saw it, investigated and then the guys were all charged.:)
 
Just dug up the rule I spoke of from the regs


Party Licence
• Each member of a party licence is
considered to be the holder of that
licence.
• Members of the party licence may
carry firearms and hunt provided
they are in the immediate area of
and within sight of each other while
both are hunting.
 
Here's the Ontario reg, a cut and paste from the 2007 regs:

2008? we're waiting .........

Party Hunting
A person may hunt moose, deer or black bear in a party even
if the person has previously attached his or her game seal to
a moose, deer or black bear. The term “Party Hunting” means
two or more persons hunting during an open season for
moose, deer or black bear under all of the following
conditions:
• Each person has a valid licence to hunt moose, deer or
black bear.
• The total number of moose, deer or black bear killed by
the party does not exceed the total number of game seals
held by the members of the party licensed to hunt that
species.
• The total number of moose, deer or black bear of a specified
###, age or type killed by the party does not exceed
the total number of game seals validated for that ###, age
or type that are held by members of the party.
• All members of the party hunt together in the same
Wildlife Management Unit or portion thereof for which
the game seal is valid.
• Each member of the party hunts within five kilometres of
the person who holds the game seal that is valid for the
wildlife being hunted.
• Each member of the party must be able to reliably and
immediately communicate with other members of the
party.
• All members of the party, including the person who holds
the seal that is valid for the wildlife that the party is
hunting, actively participate in the hunt and hunt
co-operatively.
The person who kills the wildlife while hunting in a party
shall immediately notify all other members of the party the
wildlife has been killed and the game seal holder shall
immediately affix the game seal to the wildlife in the manner
prescribed on the game seal.
At this point, party members at the kill site must determine
the category of animals that may still be hunted. You must
then make sure your other party members, who did not come
to the kill site, are informed. The hunter in your party who
killed the animal, and the hunter who attached the game seal,
may continue hunting provided other members of your party
possess valid, unused game seals.
If you have questions about party hunting, the best time to
get answers is before the hunt begins. Contact a Conservation
Officer at the MNR office in the district in which you will be
hunting. A list of MNR offices and phone numbers are
found on page 80.
 
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