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My brother gave me an old Enfield,I think its a Savage model because it has a square S No4 Mk1 Marked on the reciever and US Property almost sanded off,There is no date marked on it.Serial # is 51c3231.I would like to put the full wood back on it but it looks like someone cut the barrel at the bayonet lug making the barrel length 23 inchs,Is that enough barrel for the wood to fit?Pics will show you the carnage,Please let me know if its possible.


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Yes the S stands for savage. You can put full wood back on it but honestly it would be better to find one with a full length barrel. It wouldn't be worth the time to put wood back on it with a cut barrel. If you put full wood on it, it would be worth less than half of a full length barrel one would be because of the cut barrel. That gun is a good shooter.
 
Greyman is right. Not worth restoring. Shoot it as is, part it out, or donate it to a gun org. Wasn't CSSA looking for donation guns?
 
Have to agree, not worth restoring for 2 important reasons.

1) Cut barrel
2) Savages aren't that popular in Canada even when they're perfect.

Spend your $ fixing up an uncut Long Branch. :)
 
I'm not restoring it to sell,I just like the look of a full stock,I have no money into it and would like a little project to keep me busy this winter,The Main Question is,Is the sight band in the proper spot to fit new wood on it and are all the Enfield barrels tapered like this one is?
 
Woodeneye said:
I'm not restoring it to sell,I just like the look of a full stock,I have no money into it and would like a little project to keep me busy this winter,The Main Question is,Is the sight band in the proper spot to fit new wood on it and are all the Enfield barrels tapered like this one is?
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Sell it for $140 and buy an uncut one for $140.

No charge. ;)
 
Do what ever makes you happy!
Plenty of barrel to work with, though as other's have said you might as well just keep it as is.
It'll probably be a better shooter as is , free floated, than if you were to try to put full wood on it.
But hey, taking them apart and fiddling is part of the Enfield charm.
 
I suppose one could put their creative talents to work and whump up one of those frankenfield "tanker" rifles. A "bobbited" barrel would make a great starter kit for one of these.

I always wondered what "Santa's workshop" these come from.
 
What is up with the front sight base, it looks cracked ? I have never seen that before!

I agree with everyone thus far, not worth restoring with the cut down barrel with Long Branch sporters floating around just about everywhere it seems.
 
Lee enfields are great hunting rifles

The no4 mark 1 is a super rifle. Ultra reliable and DEADLY on game including moose. Shoot 180 gr bullets and be happy.
 
Woodeneye said:
I'm not restoring it to sell,I just like the look of a full stock,I have no money into it and would like a little project to keep me busy this winter,The Main Question is,Is the sight band in the proper spot to fit new wood on it and are all the Enfield barrels tapered like this one is?
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the answers your looking for is Yes and Yes

you can put a full wood stock on it without any modification but it will still look a little odd.

I have one exactly like that one that I'm going to make into my second No4 tanker once I'm done with the No1 that I'm working on, (its going to be turned into a calvary carbine) Trick is finding 2 bubba stocks with the right grain to splice together :D
 
There are some options...

Sorry for coming to this forum late but my hobby is restoring old Enfields. I get the old sporterized bubbas and bring them as close as I can to their old glory. The cut barrel is an issue but you can swap it out with a replacement one from Numrich for $65 US. The wood is available from a few sources (mostly in the US) across a wide spectrum of pricing ranging from 3 x full sets for $120 to a couple of hundred dollars for a single set.

The barrel will be a b**ch to change without the proper tools but a good gunsmith should be able to sort you out for a fair cost. The challenge will be in finding the middle and end-barrel bands for a decent price and the most scarce item are the sling swivels and screws. That said, there is a guy that shows up on Ebay sometimes that sells screws (he makes them himself) for approx $3 per screw.

I've restored 3 Enfields so far and have another 7 to go (mix of No1 MkIIIs [3] and No4 Mk1s [4]). My quest is to keep our military heritage alive by reversing years of "sporterizing" and restoring them to their glorious form. If I knew how to upload a picture, I would show you a sample of my work.

Despite the cost to restore (estimate about $250-$300), I think that it could be worth the effort to bring your shooter back to life.

Cheers!
 
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