Cam-Pro 230gn 45ACP loads

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Hey guys,

I have some Cam pro 230gn 45ACP plated bullets and I'm having trouble finding load data for them. Currently I'm running Accurate #2 for powder. I have a good lead workup at 5.4gn sitting at 1.263 and Its working fine however, I have my IPSC Black Badge course this weekend the shoot is indoors so I need to switch to plated for the time being.

My question is, since these cam pro bullets aren't quite a full RN, rather more of a FN, finding a proper depth, OAL and charge for the Accurate #2 is proving to be quite difficult. I'm assuming I can run 5.1gn around 1.200-1.250 with decent results. Unfortunately I do not have time to test this load before my course so I have to wing it. Any input you guys have will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
 
I just worked up a load with those same bullets for IPSC. I use tightgroup and arrived at 4.9 grains (power factor around 175) and an overall length of 1.30 which may be a little long for your gun. I would think that you OAL will be fine, but pull the barrel and drop the rounds in to see how they sit. Are you running a 1911? If you are, do a search for "1911 oal check", click images and you should find a diagram that shows how to do it properly. Sorry I am on a phone and can't look now. Too long and you will have feed problems, too short and accuracy will suffer a little. Of course reliability is more important than accuracy for what you are doing this weekend.

I think if your loads are in the low to middle range of published jacketed recipes you will be fine.
 
Yeah I'm running an STI Spartan. I've done some OAL checks and you are correct. Those OAL's will be ok as far as feeding/accuracy. What worries me is measuring with the flat nose, I may not be seating deep enough in the case. I'm realitivley new to reloading so I dont know how much of an issue this will cause. Should I bump the charge .3 or .4 possibly to compensate for the added space in the case?

5.1-5.4gn is what I'm loading my lead with, and they sit deep. 5.0-5.6 is what the AA#2 data tells me for the FMJ, 4.8-5.4 for the lead I do believe. As long as you dont forsee over/under pressure issues with the specs I've given I'll be a happy man!

Thank for the response, greatly apprecated.
 
GunfighterAlpha said:
Yeah I'm running an STI Spartan. I've done some OAL checks and you are correct. Those OAL's will be ok as far as feeding/accuracy. What worries me is measuring with the flat nose, I may not be seating deep enough in the case. I'm realitivley new to reloading so I dont know how much of an issue this will cause. Should I bump the charge .3 or .4 possibly to compensate for the added space in the case?

5.1-5.4gn is what I'm loading my lead with, and they sit deep. 5.0-5.6 is what the AA#2 data tells me for the FMJ, 4.8-5.4 for the lead I do believe. As long as you dont forsee over/under pressure issues with the specs I've given I'll be a happy man!

Thank for the response, greatly apprecated.
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OK, first off even if there is more space in the case never ever ever increase the charge to "make up for it". Also, don't worry about the OAL too much as a number. The space between the top of the powder and the bottom of the bullet has nothing to do with anything.


Found the diagram that I was referring to in my previous post -

http://www.google.ca/imgres?q=oal+45+acp&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1258&bih=617&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnsfd&tbnid=EMg8oGoQT20IFM:&imgrefurl=http://www.dayattherange.com/%3Fp%3D861&docid=HKxUKrFs6x0T9M&imgurl=http://www.dayattherange.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/45seatingpossibilitiesxyl8.jpg&w=800&h=267&ei=veRYT5utFcLc0QGchKnQDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=372&vpy=183&dur=1397&hovh=129&hovw=389&tx=166&ty=150&sig=108847030106301057546&page=1&tbnh=66&tbnw=197&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0

Sorry about the crazy link, but that's the best I can do for you. This will teach you how to find the correct OAL for your spartan. Basically what I do is I make a round that is way too long, then very gradually put the same round through the bullet seating station while making it slightly shorter as I go and then check the round in the chamber, then make it a little shorter until it sits the way you see in the diagram. When you get the right length record it and load all of your rounds to that length for that pistol. I like to start with a clean chamber to make sure that the round just drops in.

I can't help you with the loads except to say that as long as you are within the range published in 2 different manuals (as it sounds like you are) and you don't put excessive crimp on the rounds you should be fine.

I don't see any issues with your numbers, but I am just a random guy on the internet!
 
I can match a good OAL with the barrel out, but these dummy rounds will not cycle. The extractor wont pick them up. I find I need to come down to 1.200 to get a reliable cycle. The long rounds will chamber but will not eject. Will this be a problem ejecting a spent casing vs a full round? Or am is my best bet to stick with 1.2OAL for the weekend to be safe?
 
I was hoping that someone on here with more experience would have jumped in with a good answer to your last question.

I can't find any data for the exact bullet you are using either. My lyman book only has OAL (225 Grain) for jacketed hollow point at 1.243 and lead at 1.272, so your 1.20 is shorter, but shouldn't be unsafe as far as I know. In the lyman book it says that you should not stray more than .005 than what is listed, but from what I understand you should be ok with .45 as it is very low pressure and you are not working near the max, but should be on the middle to lower end of the range.

I would think you are ok, but I am no expert. Where are all the experts? There are usually all kinds of em on here!
 
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