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Ed Smurf

Ed Smurf

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So I hunt deer on private property with permission of landowner. I wear the required Blaze orange clothing as per regs. The property has two types of stands. One is the permanent outhouse type of wooden structure, the others are temporary camo tents.
Once inside these blinds, your blaze orange is nullified...you are unseen to both deer and humans. I have had hunters walk by me not knowing if the blind was occupied or not.
I assume it is legal to do this but I feel somewhat uneasy as you can understand. Is there some kind of protocol that makes this situation safer? What do you do?
 
Remember one of the four rules of gun safety “Be sure of your target and what is beyond it”. If you are really worried about it put a hunter orange vest over the camo tent or permanent blind. As I recall they were talking about making this a law in Ontario.
 
No requirement to wear orange in BC and we have few problems with it. No one takes anything for granted and most of us won't shoot unless we're certain of our target. (I say most because there's always that one guy...)
 
F@$K orange. Its stupid. I am pretty sure the states/ provinces with the highest rates of accidents also have orange laws. I could be wrong on this though.
Unfortunately I have talked to enough guys in Ontario (mostly what I would consider older dudes) tat say they shoot at anything that moves, or know guys that shoot at anything that moves.
It's ridiculous.
 
I have to wear orange because of the regulations here. If I believe making myself visible makes me safer from other hunters not noticing I'm in their field of fire, logically I shouldn't cover up my hi-vis clothing with a camoflauge blind. And if hi-vis clothing isn't giving me away to the deer, the same colours on the blind won't either.
 
Get some orange flagging tape and tie it to the sides of you blind.

I think the style of hunting here is a lot different than it is in other parts of Canada. In Southern Ontario it's a lot of bush pushing, and Central Ontario it's a lot of hunting with hounds. It's quick shooting and there isn't a lot of time to line up a shot and look what's beyond. Definitely more room for error.
 
When using a blind I just pin my vest on top. If they can't figure that out well..... carry on. I have seen orange caps like a tent fly for the tops of blinds in the US. I am old enough to have been able to deer hunt without orange in SW Ontario and for sitting I don't see the point. When up and moving/pushing won't be without it with the trespassing idiots we have around here.
 
CanuckR said:
F@$K orange. Its stupid. I am pretty sure the states/ provinces with the highest rates of accidents also have orange laws. I could be wrong on this though.
Unfortunately I have talked to enough guys in Ontario (mostly what I would consider older dudes) tat say they shoot at anything that moves, or know guys that shoot at anything that moves.
It's ridiculous.
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Bunch of helpful info right there.

Insinuating Ontario is the only place that has idiots hunting is crazy, there are "unsafe" hunters everywhere, and if wearing Orange makes you safer while hunting, why not wear it?? It has absolutely no affect on your hunt when hunting deer or moose. (I'm sure other species as well, these are just the 2 I'm familiar with) I have passed up many shots over the years because I have spotted orange way off in the distance in the general direction a shot presented itself. So you don't shoot. Lots of these instances, if the other hunter had been wearing full camo, you would not have seen them. Unlikely that had I shot, hypothetically, that the other hunter would be harmed, by why have any risk of it. Orange makes them visible to other hunters, but not game.
I wouldn't hunt deer (firearms) without blaze orange, if I knew that I was the only person in an area, or knew that only the group I hunt with was in an area, I wouldn't worry one bit. But there are idiots everywhere, not just in Ontario, that trespass, and/or don't think things through fully before taking shots at game. So why not protect yourself, not only are you protecting yourself, but you are protecting our entire way of life, by possibly avoiding another "hunting accident" that give us all a bad name. We have it hard enough as it is.

As for the OP, if you are worried about climbing into a camo blind, hang a blaze vest or hat on top of the blind to make it visible.
 
While stalking boar in NC, I came across many, many orange/pink tape wrapped around trees and/or sapling to notify me that a hunting stand was there. I'm not sure if this is the reg in some provinces in Canada, but it was in North Carolina.

Of course, they never removed the tape once done, so it got to be a game for me to guess how many years the tape was left there by the degree of faded color
 
CanuckR said:
Unfortunately I have talked to enough guys in Ontario (mostly what I would consider older dudes) tat say they shoot at anything that moves, or know guys that shoot at anything that moves.
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I figure you either will be seen by someone smart enough to always be sure what they are shooting at (99.99% of hunters, hopefully), or you will be shot at by the above.

I wear this every year:
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and I have been shot at twice (yes, two times) in the last 16 years... luckily, I was not hit even though one was close enough.
 
Firstly, do not assume anything is legal until you read all the Quebec hunting regs, and not just the summary. If there's nothing in the law that says you can't, you're legal. At least, in the rest of Canada.
Ask the land owner if he gives anybody else permission to be there, and if not, put up a blaze orange on blue sign that says, No Trespassing. Or the like.
 
Melnibonean said:
While stalking boar in NC, I came across many, many orange/pink tape wrapped around trees and/or sapling to notify me that a hunting stand was there. I'm not sure if this is the reg in some provinces in Canada, but it was in North Carolina.

Of course, they never removed the tape once done, so it got to be a game for me to guess how many years the tape was left there by the degree of faded color
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That's the problem, people see red tape for weeks, then just ignore it. I have seen signs "hunters in area" or similar, but it is just a way of keeping the area clear of other hunters, whether anyone is there or not.
 
Just place an Orange toque on the top of your hide. I wear blaze orange as like Fire306 states there are hunters with poor judgments skill everywhere and if it saves you from being shot just once it has been well worth the money and effort. Yes believe it or not there are still folks out there that shoot at movement. I remember several years back asking an older fella who was a very successful deer hunter what his secret was to consistently shooting deer. He stated he always stayed alert and still on his watch and shot at anything brown that moved!! And being a little colour blind, brown and green to him where all the same. After that chat I never went anywhere near the area he hunted as my jacket was blaze but my pants were brown/green. It only takes one of these fellas to spoil your day, permanently!!
 
Remember if you use your hunter orange vest, toque, or hat to mark your enclosed blind you still need to be wearing the required hunter orange in the blind. I know it doesn’t make sense but all big game hunting in Ontario requires hunter orange to be worn. The exception to that is bear hunting in a stand when there is no other big game season.
 
Have a blaze orange blind and your clothing.

Guess what , the deer don't know the difference or care!!!

Camo for deer hunting is the biggest scam forced upon deer hunters.

What is it good for? Hiding from other hunters is about it.
 
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