Campro accuracy?
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saskgunowner101
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I notice a lot of people never look inward, and instead always outward when there is a problem. How many different load combo's and seating depths have you tried? I've had great results and ####ty results with some reloads just switching powders. I'm not picking on you, but I can turn a 1.5" moa rifle into a 3"+ just by handing it to my nephew.
Yeah, i admit that my load development is lacking. I'm just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. I'm loading .40, .45, and .44
I'm just finding that using hornady xtp's will give me much better 50-200m groups (without overly extensive load testing).
Like 9 of 10 on a 16" gong at 100m with the .45 xtp's vs 1 of 10 with the campros. Same for the .40
The .44 is like a laser with the xtp's, whereas I'm lucky to hit anything at 200m with the campros. The 44 may very well be due to over crimp and excessive velocity, but that can't be said for the 40 and 45?
I'm just finding that using hornady xtp's will give me much better 50-200m groups (without overly extensive load testing).
Like 9 of 10 on a 16" gong at 100m with the .45 xtp's vs 1 of 10 with the campros. Same for the .40
The .44 is like a laser with the xtp's, whereas I'm lucky to hit anything at 200m with the campros. The 44 may very well be due to over crimp and excessive velocity, but that can't be said for the 40 and 45?
Last weekend I was inspecting my projectiles for .223. Look at the spread of the batch of projectiles that I had (see picture):
First row (top row) is Armscor 55grn 0.223 projectiles. Actual weights range from 54.7 grn to 56.0 grn. Very loose tolerances, not very impressive process control during the manufacturing process. When I did the loading I even saw that there were differences in the shapes of the projectiles!
Next row (2nd row, projectiles in plastic baggies) is Campro 55 grn 0.223 projectiles. Actual weights range from 54.8 grn to 55.0 grn. I must admit not too bad. I was impressed.
I had a quick look at some Sierra Blitzking 55 grn 0.223 projectiles. These were even tighter tolerances than the Campro. They ranged from 54.9 to 55.0 only. Very very impressive.
All in all, its still worth shooting the Campro I think if you can develop a load that works for you......my opinion. They are almost 3 times less expensive than the Sierra!
Just my 2 cents....
Graveman
First row (top row) is Armscor 55grn 0.223 projectiles. Actual weights range from 54.7 grn to 56.0 grn. Very loose tolerances, not very impressive process control during the manufacturing process. When I did the loading I even saw that there were differences in the shapes of the projectiles!
Next row (2nd row, projectiles in plastic baggies) is Campro 55 grn 0.223 projectiles. Actual weights range from 54.8 grn to 55.0 grn. I must admit not too bad. I was impressed.
I had a quick look at some Sierra Blitzking 55 grn 0.223 projectiles. These were even tighter tolerances than the Campro. They ranged from 54.9 to 55.0 only. Very very impressive.
All in all, its still worth shooting the Campro I think if you can develop a load that works for you......my opinion. They are almost 3 times less expensive than the Sierra!
Just my 2 cents....
Graveman
As far as plated bullets are concerned I like Campro and Frontier the best. I've also tried Berry's and excel(think that's the name). Can't really give accuracy report but they should be on par with the rest. 9mm and 45acp is what I'm talking about.
herpinator45
Regular
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- Southern Ontario - Just off 401
Check your crimp. Pull a couple apart with a kinetic puller and see if you are cutting the plating. I have ran through 30,000 plus of campro 124 9mm and have never really had any issues with accuracy. That being said I have never really shot my pistols past 50m
Ive been using there .40 180gr sh projectiles all summer with a trojan and a limited custom at ipsc major velocities, i can hit 6" plates at 50 yards no problem.
Same goes for there 147gr 9mm projectiles.
When i had my open guns, i used there 124,s with the same results.
Hope this helps
Same goes for there 147gr 9mm projectiles.
When i had my open guns, i used there 124,s with the same results.
Hope this helps
I've read about hollow points such as the xtp being more accurate than a FMJ bullet due to the greater surface area in contact with the rifling, Hornady markets the HAP bullets with that claim. Somebody with more experience may be able to shed some light on that.
What are your charge weights for each? Are you using the same amount for both types? And you asked about OAL, it may vary between a FMJ or a HP for the same weight of bullet. If seated at the incorrect depth they may still feed and chamber on a .40 or .45 because it the case that headspaces in the chamber.
Again, far more experienced people on here would be able to address this as well, I am just curious as to why there is such a change. It couldn't be more to do with a point of impact change, or they just fly all over the place?
What are your charge weights for each? Are you using the same amount for both types? And you asked about OAL, it may vary between a FMJ or a HP for the same weight of bullet. If seated at the incorrect depth they may still feed and chamber on a .40 or .45 because it the case that headspaces in the chamber.
Again, far more experienced people on here would be able to address this as well, I am just curious as to why there is such a change. It couldn't be more to do with a point of impact change, or they just fly all over the place?
saskgunowner101
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- middle of Sask
What exactly is the "load" that's going haywire? Is it a low powered gaming load? I tried some really light loads with Clays powder, they were about .2-.3 below the bottom end, and the results were comical. It took a gun from a skoal tin size group to cantalope size or more at the same distance.
