Can a 32 Win. Sp. chamber in a rifle marked 30 WCF?

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A friend has a Win. Saddle ring carbine marked 30WCF. The middle man he bought it from told him it was 32 Win. Sp. and he fed a factory, loaded 32Win Sp into it, closed the bolt and ejected the case. When he was cleaning the crud off of it he discovered the 30WCF marked on the barrel. Rifle is original and hasn't been messed with. Dave
 
32 Special is 30-30 necked up to .32 caliber. So it very well might with an old loose worn chamber.
 
dahs said:
32 Special is 30-30 necked up to .32 caliber. So it very well might with an old loose worn chamber.
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Without looking up specs, I am not so sure it's that simple, necking up 30-30 to 32 ends up with the shoulder too far forward and won't chamber, IMHE anyway. I have always had to size the brass to relocate the shoulder so it would chamber. A 32 might chamber in a 30-30, but shouldn't the other way around.


Anywho, firing the 32 WS in a 30WCF might not be very smart. Especially in a lever, lol. Firing a 30-30 in a 32WS probably won't hurt anything, but would have rather interesting 100 yard groups!!
 
I bought a 32 special from a chap a few years ago, who thought it was a 30-30. I asked him if he'd ever fired it and he said no. Some people...
 
Thanks guys for the info. No, he doesn't intend to try to chamber and shoot a 32 Win Sp in a 30-30!! So, it shouldn't but it might? I guess I may dig out an old reloading manual to see specs for both. Dave
 
A .30-30 uses a .308 bullet; a .32Spl, .321. .013 difference. The neck diameters of loaded rounds will show a similar difference.
A .32Spl. shouldn't chamber in a .30-30, unless something is wrong.
 
blargon said:
I bought a 32 special from a chap a few years ago, who thought it was a 30-30. I asked him if he'd ever fired it and he said no. Some people...
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I have a friend who thinks that ALL lever actions are .30-30s. And only Winchester makes them...

I have another who brought his grandfather's rifle to me to check out before firing, and to determine what ammo it needed. I showed him the stamped .44WCF and told him to buy .44-40 ammo. He mentioned this to another friend (an officer in the CF) who told him that, in no uncertain terms, should he do that. That was obviously the wrong stuff and as far as he knew, no one made ammo for that rifle anymore. He would have to hang it up on the wall. Weeks later when I asked how the rifle shot, I got the story. I got out the books and showed him exactly what I knew already. He was finally convinced! Especially when I showed him that both Wholesale and Cabela's had them in stock, so, on my next trip to Edmonton, I went into Wholesale Sports and bought 2 boxes, brought them back and fired them at the range with him.

Some people...
 
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Cleftwynd said:
Without looking up specs, I am not so sure it's that simple, necking up 30-30 to 32 ends up with the shoulder too far forward and won't chamber, IMHE anyway. I have always had to size the brass to relocate the shoulder so it would chamber. A 32 might chamber in a 30-30, but shouldn't the other way around.


Anywho, firing the 32 WS in a 30WCF might not be very smart. Especially in a lever, lol. Firing a 30-30 in a 32WS probably won't hurt anything, but would have rather interesting 100 yard groups!!
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Read P.O. Ackleys Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders volume 1&2. The model 94 will put up with quite a bit. I doubt that a 32 will chamber in a 30-30, but then again with some guys, if it doesn't fit, get a bigger hammer.
 
snoopycda said:
Read P.O. Ackleys Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders volume 1&2. The model 94 will put up with quite a bit. I doubt that a 32 will chamber in a 30-30, but then again with some guys, if it doesn't fit, get a bigger hammer.
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The 94 is an excellent action and very durable, but it is still a far cry from a good bolt such as a 98, weatherby, rem 700, etc.....
 
It has been some years since I have read the Ackley books, but he was pointing out that most of the rearward thrust on the bolt (yes, I call the part of the lever action that holds the cartridge, a bolt) when the rifle fired, was held by the cartridge case grasping the chamber walls.
Thus, there was little danger of the action ever giving away, by blowing out to the rear.
 
Well the O.P. got me thinking maybe a test is in order.................aye?
Found the necessary requirements.
One Marlin 336 in the wee lad chambering, terdy-turdie.

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And sum bullets in the 32 as asked. One piece of 30-30 brass necked up to fit the 32.
Put the two together for the s'periment.

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And for you safety Nazis wishing to taint and feather us fine folk, no primer nor powder was hert in this s'periment.

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Load the fine neutered specimen into the loading gate and yes it does fit here, no surprises.
Note the no primer in the butt.

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No problem working it's way up through the action.

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Work the lever a wee bit just to be careful not to bind anything and ...........

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this is as far as the lever would travel and the bolt.

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Now comes the interesting part...............
The round wouldn't eject.
Good thing for the dummy round.

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Soooooooo, short answer, nay nay.
 
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