Does this only apply to Husqvarna's?
I've got a FN98(left wall stamped Fabrique National, etc) with thumb cut-out and H-ring. It's a Columbian military contract action.
Can a Husqvarna barrel be re-bored?
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Does this only apply to Husqvarna's?
I've got a FN98(left wall stamped Fabrique National, etc) with thumb cut-out and H-ring. It's a Columbian military contract action.
Hey Woodbeef...no guilt involved...like most Gunnutz, I'm always pleased to be part of firearms information sharing...no purchase required. Anyway, I bought this Husky because I didn't own an '06 previously, and I saw this one as a bit of a classic. Regarding the forestock, it widens out from top to bottom. The bottom of the forestock is fairly flat. Near the floorplate the bottom is about 2" wide, and near the front end it is about 1 1/2" wide. I expect those in the know have terminology for it, but I don't know what this particular profile is called.
1- Mauser 98, the FN M98 H-type was designed for military use first, but since after WWII FN found the market for military bolt action started getting narrow, they decided to push on the civilian side.
There are some, like the Columbian (also, El Salvador, Israel, Netherland, Venezuela and maybe others wich I don't remind right now), FN Model 1950 Short Rifle, 30-06 Sprg caliber, made with the charger clip rail and thumb cut-out. Civilian actions don't have the cut-out.
2- Icedog, the beechwood most of the time have "small flame" patterns in it. look here for more stuff; http://www.rebooty.com/~dutchman/ but from the pics I got, it's really not beech.
3- Icedog and Why not?; It can't be a 3000, 6000, or 7000. The reasons are very simple, according to the S/N, the rifle was made prior the introduction of these models, and they were never fitted with FN actions (only the 1640 were used). I didn't see the fore end but I really think it's a model 640. If this is a recent import, it's for sure a late 640. If it was originally bought in North America (prior 1953-54), it would have a Monte Carlo walnut stock, jeweled bolt. The 640 came in a wide variety of configurations, but the main point is the stock; they all carried the same stock, means, "long" fore end wider at the base, getting thinner (bevelled) at the barrel junction (a bit in the target rifle fashion, sometimes described as "beaver tail'), no tips. A plain Jane with lots of charm.
There are some, like the Columbian (also, El Salvador, Israel, Netherland, Venezuela and maybe others wich I don't remind right now), FN Model 1950 Short Rifle, 30-06 Sprg caliber, made with the charger clip rail and thumb cut-out. Civilian actions don't have the cut-out.
2- Icedog, the beechwood most of the time have "small flame" patterns in it. look here for more stuff; http://www.rebooty.com/~dutchman/ but from the pics I got, it's really not beech.
3- Icedog and Why not?; It can't be a 3000, 6000, or 7000. The reasons are very simple, according to the S/N, the rifle was made prior the introduction of these models, and they were never fitted with FN actions (only the 1640 were used). I didn't see the fore end but I really think it's a model 640. If this is a recent import, it's for sure a late 640. If it was originally bought in North America (prior 1953-54), it would have a Monte Carlo walnut stock, jeweled bolt. The 640 came in a wide variety of configurations, but the main point is the stock; they all carried the same stock, means, "long" fore end wider at the base, getting thinner (bevelled) at the barrel junction (a bit in the target rifle fashion, sometimes described as "beaver tail'), no tips. A plain Jane with lots of charm.
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Thanks Ted, but now I've got a little more confusion creeping in here. According to Baribal this piece was made in 1951, and unless I'm misinterpretting some of his info, the 6000 and 7000 didn't come along until 1953. Could this be like some of the Savages, as in "never say never"?
No, it can't be.
It's a FN 98.
The stock Why not? is talkin' about is square at the bottom (look at the pictures of my rifles, the 3000 Crown grade is what he is talking about and the 649 must have the same type of stock than yours), and did not appear before late '60s. The first Crown and Presentation 1640 had a rounded receiver.
No. 1 = Model 46
No. 2 = Model 640
No. 3 = 3000 Crown Grade - same as the 6000
No. 4 = Sako Hi-Power FN 98
No. 5 = Brno 21H
It's a FN 98.
The stock Why not? is talkin' about is square at the bottom (look at the pictures of my rifles, the 3000 Crown grade is what he is talking about and the 649 must have the same type of stock than yours), and did not appear before late '60s. The first Crown and Presentation 1640 had a rounded receiver.
No. 1 = Model 46
No. 2 = Model 640
No. 3 = 3000 Crown Grade - same as the 6000
No. 4 = Sako Hi-Power FN 98
No. 5 = Brno 21H
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Baribal,
Thanks again for you patience and assistance...and to Mad-Trapper, my apologies for taking your thread sideways.
From the photos, I would say the stock on mine most resembles the 640. The bolt handle on mine is bent in (down towards the stock), and back a bit, I assume to accomodate scope mounting. It's hard to tell from the photo whether yours is similar. Also, on my screen, it looks like your barrel is stepped?...and mine is a straight taper.
By the way...great looking collection!
Thanks again for you patience and assistance...and to Mad-Trapper, my apologies for taking your thread sideways.
From the photos, I would say the stock on mine most resembles the 640. The bolt handle on mine is bent in (down towards the stock), and back a bit, I assume to accomodate scope mounting. It's hard to tell from the photo whether yours is similar. Also, on my screen, it looks like your barrel is stepped?...and mine is a straight taper.
By the way...great looking collection!
Now, you understand the trick; 640 series is only a matter of stock configuration. Since they used three different action for this model, it's normal there are differences.
This rifle (my 649) is an early 640.
The barrel is of the "sleeved" type. It's exactly the same barrel configuration than my 21H (not same manufacturer, though). It is not what is called a stepped barrel, not in the way we do know it.
The action is different because the one you see above is a M94/96/38 (or "Commercial") and not a M98.
For HVA models (whatever the action is), unless you have the original stock, it is merely impossible to say what model it was originally intented to be except for those having let's say the "Presentation" or "Lyx" or "Imperial" stamping.
This rifle (my 649) is an early 640.
The barrel is of the "sleeved" type. It's exactly the same barrel configuration than my 21H (not same manufacturer, though). It is not what is called a stepped barrel, not in the way we do know it.
The action is different because the one you see above is a M94/96/38 (or "Commercial") and not a M98.
For HVA models (whatever the action is), unless you have the original stock, it is merely impossible to say what model it was originally intented to be except for those having let's say the "Presentation" or "Lyx" or "Imperial" stamping.
So, I think I've got it...I have a late series model 640 Husqvarna in 30'06 with an FN M98 "H" type action and walnut stock, serial # 128###, manufactured in 1951. Somehow it seems more "mine" now, and more important to me than before I had it fully identified. Maybe I'll top it with a different scope and take it on a hunt or two this fall.
Thanks once again for all the information...greatly appreciated!
Thanks once again for all the information...greatly appreciated!
No, it can't be.
It's a FN 98.
The stock Why not? is talkin' about is square at the bottom (look at the pictures of my rifles, the 3000 Crown grade is what he is talking about and the 649 must have the same type of stock than yours), and did not appear before late '60s. The first Crown and Presentation 1640 had a rounded receiver.
No. 1 = Model 46
No. 2 = Model 640
No. 3 = 3000 Crown Grade - same as the 6000
No. 4 = Sako Hi-Power FN 98
No. 5 = Brno 21H
Actually, Baribal, the Model 3000 has a pear-shaped forestock with a black plastic forend, not a square one. If I can ever get my computer's card reader to work again, I can post a picture of a 3000.
No. 3 is definitely a Model 6000 that someone had added a recoil pad to. The 7000 was the same stock, but with a very high gloss finish.
Ted
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Sorry to say that, Ted, but you're wrong.
The Canadian run of the last 3000 Crown grade were made with the high gloss, square rosewood fore end (a.k.a. Jakaranda), select French walnut (clear tone), no cap on pistol grip... they shifted from the round to square pattern in '64.
These featured standard Mauser trigger (single stage), alloy floorplate, hooded front ramp sight, jeweled bolt. Like the other HVA rifles, the importer was Montreal's Dorken & Bros. The big seller was the 7mm Rem Mag.
The same 3000 model, imported by Tradewinds (see below 1967 catalog) were the same, less the epoxyde glossy finish (they were actually oiled). The Presentation Grade was the same, except it had a silver soldered sling swivel, highly engraved receiver and floorplate. It was stamped "PRESENTATION"
The Imperial 6000 had a three leaf folding rear sight, with 100, 200, 300yds stamped on it. It was also stamped "IMPERIAL"
The 7000 was the higher grade of the lightweight model (a.k.a. 4100).
All these models were drilled and tapped for standard Weaver bases plus for receiver peep sight.
I never seen any with plastic fore end cap, neither from the older "round" style nor from the later "square" style, all of those i've seen were Jakaranda.
The Canadian run of the last 3000 Crown grade were made with the high gloss, square rosewood fore end (a.k.a. Jakaranda), select French walnut (clear tone), no cap on pistol grip... they shifted from the round to square pattern in '64.
These featured standard Mauser trigger (single stage), alloy floorplate, hooded front ramp sight, jeweled bolt. Like the other HVA rifles, the importer was Montreal's Dorken & Bros. The big seller was the 7mm Rem Mag.
The same 3000 model, imported by Tradewinds (see below 1967 catalog) were the same, less the epoxyde glossy finish (they were actually oiled). The Presentation Grade was the same, except it had a silver soldered sling swivel, highly engraved receiver and floorplate. It was stamped "PRESENTATION"
The Imperial 6000 had a three leaf folding rear sight, with 100, 200, 300yds stamped on it. It was also stamped "IMPERIAL"
The 7000 was the higher grade of the lightweight model (a.k.a. 4100).
All these models were drilled and tapped for standard Weaver bases plus for receiver peep sight.
I never seen any with plastic fore end cap, neither from the older "round" style nor from the later "square" style, all of those i've seen were Jakaranda.
Baribal, I really appreciate all the information you have posted here, but the Canadian importer of Husqvarna firearms, right up until they stopped production, was was RUKO of Canada Ltd. The president of the company was Rudolf Koppe, from whence came the company name.
I travelled for them from 1968 to 1971 and sold many thousands of Husqvarna rifles from Sweden, Beretta shotguns from Italy, and Vostock and Baikal firearms imported from Russia.
The 6000 and 7000 rifle did have squared off Jacaranda wood fore-end tips, however the 3000 was rounded and definitely black plastic.
Tradewinds was the US importer and did not use the same model designations as we did in Canada. The advertisement picture you have posted is from them, right?
Just as an aside, the presentation grade rifle was actually engraved over the chamber reinforce and the last two inches of the barrel at the muzzle, as well as the receiver and floorplate, and they were roll engraved, not cut by hand.
Ted
I travelled for them from 1968 to 1971 and sold many thousands of Husqvarna rifles from Sweden, Beretta shotguns from Italy, and Vostock and Baikal firearms imported from Russia.
The 6000 and 7000 rifle did have squared off Jacaranda wood fore-end tips, however the 3000 was rounded and definitely black plastic.
Tradewinds was the US importer and did not use the same model designations as we did in Canada. The advertisement picture you have posted is from them, right?
Just as an aside, the presentation grade rifle was actually engraved over the chamber reinforce and the last two inches of the barrel at the muzzle, as well as the receiver and floorplate, and they were roll engraved, not cut by hand.
Ted
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Dorken, who were a very big importer of outdoors equipment, fine firearms, and cutlery dropped the HVA line about 1967, just before the end of production of the 1640 line. They were also importers of the Mannlicher-Shoenauer and Steyr-Mannnlicher rifles for a long time. They were in business starting somewhere around 1894 to 1970.
The model designations (of the 1640 actions) in Europe were 1640, 1640K, 1640MC, 1640 Special, 1640 Lyx, 1651, 1651 Special, 1651 Lyx, 1740 and 1600 etc, etc. The export models (wherever it was shipped to Canada or US) were named 2100, 3000, 3000P, 3100, 4000, 4100, 6000 Imperial, 7000 Imperial.
As for Tradewinds different model names you are referring at, it's the "Husky" and "Norrahammars" models wich were expressely made for them (whatever, they were just variations of standard models). They were stamped with their name on the barrel, plus usually they had HVA Action stamped on the receiver.
It is clear from the Husqvarna Museum book that the 3000 was made in two styles, the later being the same stock as the 6000, and all 3000 Crown grade had the standard trigger, while the others, the 3000P and the 6000 had the adjustable trigger and three leaf rear sight. The 6000 and the 7000 both had IMPERIAL stamped on the barrel.
The production of the 1640 action stopped in 1967 and was replaced, at that time by the 1900 action.
The model designations (of the 1640 actions) in Europe were 1640, 1640K, 1640MC, 1640 Special, 1640 Lyx, 1651, 1651 Special, 1651 Lyx, 1740 and 1600 etc, etc. The export models (wherever it was shipped to Canada or US) were named 2100, 3000, 3000P, 3100, 4000, 4100, 6000 Imperial, 7000 Imperial.
As for Tradewinds different model names you are referring at, it's the "Husky" and "Norrahammars" models wich were expressely made for them (whatever, they were just variations of standard models). They were stamped with their name on the barrel, plus usually they had HVA Action stamped on the receiver.
It is clear from the Husqvarna Museum book that the 3000 was made in two styles, the later being the same stock as the 6000, and all 3000 Crown grade had the standard trigger, while the others, the 3000P and the 6000 had the adjustable trigger and three leaf rear sight. The 6000 and the 7000 both had IMPERIAL stamped on the barrel.
The production of the 1640 action stopped in 1967 and was replaced, at that time by the 1900 action.
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