can anyone identify what model this Parker Hale is?

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Any markings / stampings of left receiver rail?? Looks like a detachable magazine, so I'd guess as a 1000C, 1100C or 1200C. I believe the earlier Safari and Safari Super models had hinged floor plates. Looks to be commercial mauser 98 receiver - like by Santa Barbara - if so there will be the word "Spain", or it will be visibly group off, on the left side of the tang, under the wood line.
 
Ok thanks. I am having my first real look at it tomorrow so I will check if it says Spain on it. Defenitly looks like a detachable mag so your prob right. My best guess was a 1000 as well. Really hard to tell with the different colored triggers and pads so I was having a hard time.
What do you guys think on value? Worth the trade for my crappy painted M77?
Thanks for the help and info I am pretty new to firearms.
 
At the various gun shows over the last couple of years you see them going for between $350.00 and $500.00 depending on caliber and condition. The 1200 deluxes a bit more.
Honestly I think the PH rifles are under valued for what a person gets. They tend to work well and the few that I have had all shot well. The only downside I see is that on the detachable mag versions replacement or spare mags are hard to find and command BIG bucks.
Scope mounting can also be an issue as they have proprietary bases that can be hard to find. Not sure if anyone makes a rail for them, but I haven't seen one. Leupold and Burris I believe both still make 2 piece bases for the PH rifles.
 
Yah I figured from what I can see online they sell around that range. A good condition ruger m77 seems to sell for more but mine has a small crack and is ugly painted so figured same price range $350 to $500. I think I am going to go ahead and do the trade. From everything I read they are good guns for the price so what the hell. I guess it just depends on if I will like 7mm mag more then .270 and being new to guns and I dont think I could tell the difference other then the price of ammo
 
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The 7 will have a little more recoil than the 270 does but also offers many more offerings in ammo than what you find for 270.
The trigger in most is adjustable so you may find it nicer than what the Ruger has.
 
At the various gun shows over the last couple of years you see them going for between $350.00 and $500.00 depending on caliber and condition. The 1200 deluxes a bit more.
Honestly I think the PH rifles are under valued for what a person gets. They tend to work well and the few that I have had all shot well. The only downside I see is that on the detachable mag versions replacement or spare mags are hard to find and command BIG bucks.
Scope mounting can also be an issue as they have proprietary bases that can be hard to find. Not sure if anyone makes a rail for them, but I haven't seen one. Leupold and Burris I believe both still make 2 piece bases for the PH rifles.

They take standard Mauser 98 bases, not hard to scope these, lots of options.
The trigger is fully adjustable as well which OP will appreciate coming from the Ruger lol.
7mm mag is like the 270 on steroids... recoil is not that bad.
 
As long as it isnt to hard to scope it I will be happy so that is good to know.
Not to worried about recoil I am a big boy lol and the recoil pad on that thing looks way better then the hard red one on my Ruger so should be good :)
Thanks again guys for the input.
 
Addley Precision makes a rail for Enfields, I think its around $140 and they're Canadian. Attaches to rear sight pin and ejector screw I believe, a friend has one on his Parker Hale and loves it
 
Do not underestimate the quality of those PH rifles built on Santa Barbara actions.
I have owned a number of them over the years, and still have 3 at present.
They tend to be very reliable, and I have always found them to be very accurate.
The caution regarding the detachable magazine is valid though..expensive and
hard to find. Dave.
 
I find it easier to remove and reinstall the action in the stock with the bolt cocked and safety on. That keeps the rear of the trigger housing in place for the procedure.
 
That looks to be "C" model. Don't lose the magazine; a replacement will be expensive and perhaps hard to find.
Disassembling the detachable magazine model is a pain. Regular screws front and back, and then there is the hidden one that came with the magazine system.
Punch out the magazine catch pin, and remove the magazine catch and spring. You will see a small allen head screw. Remove it. Don't lose the little spacer that keeps the front of the trigger guard in position.
PH assembled '98 type rifles using four different receivers:
-converted military action. Has charger loading thumb notch.
-copy of FN commercial with internal collar with only the extractor cut.
-copy of FN commercial with a cut through the internal collar on both sides, to ease manufacture.
-bastard version with no internal collar, and bolt stop from Midland 2100 design.
Second type is preferred, fourth is undesirable.
The detachable magazine conversion is a mousetrap, but does work.
When I had my shop, I had a collection of ruined barrels, of various makes, which had been fired with obstructions. Most bulged or split. PH barrels tended to break, with pieces flying away. Most dramatic example was a .30-06 barrel shattered into 7 pieces after being fired with snow in the muzzle. It was my impression that the barrels on PH rifles were hard, less ductile than other makes.
I rebarrelled quite a few PH Mausers. Barrel threads showed more variability than other makes.
Often traces of the "Made in Spain" marking can be seen on the left side of the tang. Or there will be a grind mark where it was.
PH rifles tend to shoot very well.
 
And, a word to the wise - do NOT cross thread or lose that allen head screw that goes into the recess in the front of the trigger guard. It is a British thread - a #4 or #5 BA - and you'll not likely find a replacement this side of the Atlantic, nor a tap to clean up its threaded boss that is attached to the receiver. Same series of threads as found on some British motorcars - which is how I eventually found a replacement...
 
Well I got the rifle. Pretty happy with it, its in pretty good shape especially compared to my m77 I traded.
So I tore it apart which was pretty easy thanks to all the tips you guys have me.
It has a marking left of the tang which is scratched off but appears to have said Spain. It has a gold trigger. The recoil pad is a newer replcement so doesnt tell us much. And the serial number is MAG-34208 and is stamped BNP. Anyone have any idea when this things dates from?
 
The pad will be a replacement because the originals tended to go hard with age.
Remove the bolt and look toward the breech of the barrel. Look at the collar against which the barrel breeches. Is there one cut on the right side for the extractor, or two cuts, one on each side?
 
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