Can I buy a shorter xcr 5.56 barrel?

TV-PressPass said:
I know what you mean AR180. Frankly I was surprised to see that posted by foxbat when there's "Super Uber Team Gun Nutz" under the name.

But what about when the rifle is registered as restricted and we install a NR barrel? There's no registration for NR to change any-more. Once the long barrels on can it be treated as NR? Technically its still in the database as restricted.

Also if you call the CFC and ask the exact question about installing a shorter barrel they will still tell you that there's 30 days lenience to report permanent changes. Yet most knowledgeable people I talk to say that's not true at all.

The point I'm trying to make is that we don't fully know, and they don't fully know.

When the change of status takes weeks in paper-work-world and seconds in the real world, it makes things a mess.
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As someone who has gone through it and done the paperwork I was very surprised to read this from you.

If you have a restricted firearm and you put a non restricted length barrel on it you must go through the paperwork to have it removed from the database. Until you do the rifle is still restricted. If you get stopped with it and the officer runs the serial number and it comes back as restricted then you have now been caught with a restricted firearm outside the conditions of your ATT.

There is no mess, when you change status you accept the fact that it takes time for the paperwork to be completed and you either accept it or just leave it as one class or the other. If you put a non restricted barrel on it you can still go to the range and play while waiting for the paperwork. I'm in that exact situation right now with my ACR, it is still registered and I'm waiting for the paperwork to come back so I can take it out as non restricted.
 
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Brian46 said:
It is very wrong to think that the availability of a shorter barrel for the XCR being available would bring the classification into question like one person on here keeps posting. Some people have put shorter custom barrels on and a Restricted FRT already exists for a restricted XCR, and the pistol is a seperate one again.

At Shot this year RA was showing off new short barreled versions coming for sale, there goes that theory again.
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Wolverine Supplies said on another thread saying it would bring the classification of the XCR into question if they import shorter barrels.

Brian46 said:
Currently, but the ACR is on its way in NR as well.
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Assuming the RCMP approve the NR ACR for import...
 
RA is now making restricted barrel length XCR's, wolverine is not going to sell those or the barrels?

The NR ACR already has a non restricted FRT, what needs to be approved?
 
Brian46 said:
RA is now making restricted barrel length XCR's, wolverine is not going to sell those or the barrels?

The NR ACR already has a non restricted FRT, what needs to be approved?
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We are talking about the RCMP here, they will pull somrthing like the cz858...
Like I said, wolverine supplies already posted on other forums regarding shorter barrels.
 
back40sniper said:
To the OP, this is why John at Wolverine won't bring in short barrels, nothing under 18.6 unless of course it is a pistol model. We don't need somebody F'ing up a good thing.
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Yep, and I agree. I think Wolverine is making a good decision not to offer shorter barrels.
 
andrew3081 said:
We are talking about the RCMP here, they will pull somrthing like the cz858...
Like I said, wolverine supplies already posted on other forums regarding shorter barrels.
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Steiner said:
Yep, and I agree. I think Wolverine is making a good decision not to offer shorter barrels.
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so they will not be selling the new restricted XCR's that were just at SHOT? seems like a very odd stance considering they are in the business of selling firearms.
 
They do sell the XCR pistol and Micro and they have been doing it for a while.

Also this is from another forum:

Mr Wolverine said:
This at best is a very grey area. The real problem is that the CFC are unable to register any firearm with more than one barrel, the problem arises when the “spare” barrel is a different caliber or length. Under the old RWS system multi caliber (barrel) guns were registered with the Certs labelled 1 of 3, 2 of 3 and 3 of 3 and so on. The CFC gave me the run around when the long gun registry was in effect with a combo three barrel rifle shotgun set up. All three barrels were different, they were unable to register her correctly. The problem is compounded when by changing the barrel the class is also changed.

In the case of the XCR rifles we were advised that if barrels under 18.5 inches were sold then the easiest solution would be to classify all XCR as restricted regardless of barrel lengths. Scare tactics maybe, but after what we have experienced this year I believe as an importer and distributor that there are times when we should show due diligence and act with a degree of caution.

We will certainly sell you a short barreled (under 18.5 inches) XCR as a restricted firearm, you can also then purchase a longer barrel, if you then swap barrels and change the registration that is up to you. We feel this way we acting as a responsible importer.

Only the 16 inch barrel shares the same gas system as the 18.6 inch barrel. We can supply light 18.6 inch barrels so the difference is slight. Shorter barrels will require complete top half.

This is all further complicated as barrels are generally not controlled items. If you cut down a rifle or shotgun barrel to less that 18 inches you make it prohibited and handgun barrels under 105 mm are also prohibited, but otherwise there are no controls.

I trust this clarifies the situation.
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Steiner said:
Yep, and I agree. I think Wolverine is making a good decision not to offer shorter barrels.
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they are going to be offering the restricted SBR firearms and barrels from RA.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1029983-Xcr?p=9663345#post9663345
 
foxbat said:
To this point in time, the shorter barrels used on the 'pistol' versions of the XCR haven't been available separately.
I have gone the expensive route and have had short barrels made up in 7.62X39 and 6.5Grendel.
Each one required a new, short barrel + 'donor' receiver extension and gasblock from a longer XCR barrel.
A longer barrel is mounted for transportation and storage........
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What you are doing is illegal and if you get caught you will be charged with possession of an unregistered restricted firearm.
The second you install the short barrel it becomes restricted and must be registered before you can shoot it.
You are risking criminal charges, confiscation of all your firearms, having your PAL/RPAL revoked, and also ruining it for everyone. You are exactly why Wolverine will not sell the shorter barrels separately to people.
 
The regulation is pretty clear you have 30 days to report the change, The whole idea of swapping the uppers out every 30 days is pure fantasy, that will get you into a lot of trouble.
Firearms Registration Certificates Regulations (SOR/98-201)


  • CONDITIONS​
    4.     (1) Subject to section 5, the Registrar shall attach to a registration certificate that is issued in respect of a firearm the condition that the holder of the certificate shall advise the Registrar, within 30 days after the modification, of
    • (a) any modification to the firearm that results in a change of class of the firearm;
    • (b) in the case of a firearm registered as a frame or receiver only, any modification that makes it capable of discharging ammunition;
    • (c) any modification to an altered automatic firearm; and
    • (d) any modification that results in the firearm ceasing to be a firearm.
  • (2) Subject to section 5, the Registrar shall attach to a registration certificate that is issued in respect of a firearm the condition that when the type, action, calibre or gauge of the firearm is modified, the holder of the certificate shall advise the Registrar of the modification,
    • (a) if the modification is intended to be permanent, within 30 days after the modification; and
    • (b) if the modification is not intended to be permanent but still exists 30 days after it is made, without delay after that period.
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To the OP you should now that even if you were to find and install a shorter barrel on your NR XCR it would not work with it's current gas system, not to mention the fact of being in possession of a non-registered restricted firearm.
 
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