can i import disassembled high cap mags with the intention of pinning them?
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If they got pinned to 10rds (make sure it's 10 and not 11) at his place, then they would be OK and exporting them as long as the declared value is under $100 shouldn't be an ITAR issue.
oh sweet!
well i guess each is about 25.00 new so 4 of them is 100.
or i could bring up 2 now and 2 another time to keep it well under the 100.
ill see if my buddy has a rivet gun.
Wow. So much fail here.
Magazines are ITAR restricted for export from the US no matter what the price is. The exporter has to be licensed to legally export no matter what the price is.
The exporter is whoever is causing the magazines to depart the US, that means the shipper not the carrier so if buddy's friend pop rivets the magazines and sticks them in the mail, then buddy's friend is the exporter. If buddy pop rivets the magazines and puts the mags in his luggage for the flight, drive, bike ride home, then buddy is the exporter.
So in short, anyone exporting magazines out of the US has to have their export license in order, the mags have to be legal once the cross the border/arrive in Canada, and the manufacturer of the magazines has to have their paperwork sorted out with DOS as well in the first place. All this even if the mags are free, cost $2.00 a piece or $200 a piece.
Troll? When CBSA arrests and anal searches you for trying to import prohib devices, I am going to be the first one laughing.
You might also lose your rpal.
Troll? When CBSA arrests and anal searches you for trying to import prohib devices, I am going to be the first one laughing.
You might also lose your rpal.
which is exactly why i wanted to check...no trolling here
Ok, cool. Wasn't trying to be a ahole but its always better to ask, before you get locked up.
Being a firearms owner, you have to be very careful what you do. If cbsa catched you trying to import prohib stuff, your looking at loss of firearms, loss of rpal and maybe jail time?
###. So ###. The US must hate money because they make buying ANYTHING from them complicated.
Top clarity what was colourfully stated earlier.
To export ITAR controlled items, the exporter needs several things; to be a US Person, have a valid annual export registration with the State Department, and get an export license for each export shipment.
The $100 exemption is not an exemption from the required, annual registration with the US State Department (starting at $2,750 per year), but an exemption for getting an individual export license for that particular shipment.
The registered exporter still has to report the export to the State Department.
I confirmed this last year with the State Department, Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC) and posted the correspondence here on CGN.
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The only fully legal way for you to get those mags:
1) Your friend pins the mags
2) He gives them to a licensed exporter, Buffalo Gun Center comes to mind, who ships them to you (for a fee)
3) You receive legal mags
But-An exporter may not want to deal with used items due to liability.
By the time it's all said and done, it's probably best the friend sell the mags and use the money to take you out for dinner the next time you're done there.
1) Your friend pins the mags
2) He gives them to a licensed exporter, Buffalo Gun Center comes to mind, who ships them to you (for a fee)
3) You receive legal mags
But-An exporter may not want to deal with used items due to liability.
By the time it's all said and done, it's probably best the friend sell the mags and use the money to take you out for dinner the next time you're done there.
I own hanguns but have never crossed the border for competitons...so when you do cross into the US with a handgun for competitions do any of the Canadian or US border patrol check the contents and make a detailed note of every item you bring with you? If you have your gun with you and there is no record of contents (besides the actual gun) when you crossed...who can prove you didn't have those "extra" 4 mags to begin with?
Once you declare your guns, you are inspected thoroughly... all hardware and paperwork. May not notice how many mags you have...
But if I was in the OP's shoes, I'd send my buddy a few bucks and have each mag pinned properly, by a gunsmith... then accept the free mags. If an import company is already shipping the pistol, they can ship the mags too. Everything has to be Canadian legal before they get to the border, or you are screwed.
