Are there any specific sections of the firearms act that I could quote and give to the instructors? If I am right, they shouldn't be teaching people that all firearms under 18.5 inches barrel length are illegal firearms. I know that semi auto has to be 18.5+, but as long as it's factory made, you can have a pump 12ga with an 14inch barrel for instance... doesn't dlask even make legal nonrestricted shotguns under 26inches OAL??
Can I (legally) chop a rimfire barrel down to 17" ?
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there are different laws that need to be read. one says you can't cut a barrel down below 18" (or 18.5" can't remember). but there is no law on how long you can make one. so any company can make a short one. cutting = bad. making = good.
another law says a non restricted firearm has to be over 26" long. so if you get a 8" barrel. you still need the full stock to stay over 26".
another law says a non resticted semi auto, centerfire barrel has to be over 18.5". so a semi auto shotgun with a short barrel is automatcly restricted even if over 26" long. but this law doesn't apply to rim fires, or bolts, pumps etc.
the dlask is a total grey area, which I think is going to court soon. I wouldn't want to be caught with one. I know cam am's short ones say right in the FRT (which cops can read from their computers, if the pistol grip is on it's restricted.
another law says a non restricted firearm has to be over 26" long. so if you get a 8" barrel. you still need the full stock to stay over 26".
another law says a non resticted semi auto, centerfire barrel has to be over 18.5". so a semi auto shotgun with a short barrel is automatcly restricted even if over 26" long. but this law doesn't apply to rim fires, or bolts, pumps etc.
the dlask is a total grey area, which I think is going to court soon. I wouldn't want to be caught with one. I know cam am's short ones say right in the FRT (which cops can read from their computers, if the pistol grip is on it's restricted.
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I have a NEF backpacker 410 with a 12" barrel from the factory. perfectly legal.
But if I chop my Cooey 410 down from a 24" barrel to a 12" barrel, I am a criminal.
My Winchester Wrangler 94 in 32sp. has a 16" barrel. perfectly legal.
But if I chop my regular Win 94 barrel down from 20" to 16" I am in do do.....
Funny rules eh
But if I chop my Cooey 410 down from a 24" barrel to a 12" barrel, I am a criminal.
My Winchester Wrangler 94 in 32sp. has a 16" barrel. perfectly legal.
But if I chop my regular Win 94 barrel down from 20" to 16" I am in do do.....
Funny rules eh
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Hell WE don't even know or can't figure out what the laws are with respect to barrel length and we 're the ones with a vested interested in knowing the firearms laws. What makes you think anyone else (read LEO/CO) is going to be more up barrel lengths than us?
Or are these instructors totally full of sh*t?....... not really - they are simply ignorant of the law. They are teaching what they believe is right. Once educated to the facts, they will change their tune. Be the one to educate them... with documented facts... not by telling them they are full of sh*t.
I wouldn't freak out at them... but certainly having the "I'm instructor, I know what I'm talking about, you're here to learn, so listen" crap shoved in my face when they don't know what they're teaching. That's three here I know of on the east coast of NL.
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There are so many confusing laws, many of which are not explained in the CFSC or CRFSC booklet, that unless your instructors are really GUN NUTZ in the dedicated sense, it isn't unreasonable for them to get something wrong. If they are going to err on something that could get a student in trouble, if they are not sure, they may err on the side of conservatism. The other option is to say, I'm not sure, but I (or you) can find out, by calling CFC or checking with another authority. The problem is, if you call CFC, you have to make 7 calls, and if you get the same answer 4 times out of seven, it is probably .5714285 accurate.
I just had a new FRT number created while registering m14s with a dlask shortened to 18 3/4 crowned/threaded M14s barrel.
it was a previously unregistered m14s so when i went to reggie with the shorty barrel..... alarm bells went off at CFC.... um... sir....we show this rifle as only being approved for import with a 22 inch barrel..... can you place a cleaning rod in the barrel in such a fashion that it contacts the closed bolt face and take an accurate measurement in millimeters.. AND take a digital photo to evidence this? AND provide digital photo evidence that the shortened barrel has a "finished" muzzle ie/ crowned.
I did these things...it was actually somewhat painless... and now for all you guys out there with shorty m14 barrels.....who haven't informed the cfc of the barrel length change..... an FRT has been created. Apparently..... you can get into hot water with a cfo or C.O or rcmp (though prolly only in ontario ).... if they run your reggie and the barrel length doesn't match the reggie card...... LOL what next
it was a previously unregistered m14s so when i went to reggie with the shorty barrel..... alarm bells went off at CFC.... um... sir....we show this rifle as only being approved for import with a 22 inch barrel..... can you place a cleaning rod in the barrel in such a fashion that it contacts the closed bolt face and take an accurate measurement in millimeters.. AND take a digital photo to evidence this? AND provide digital photo evidence that the shortened barrel has a "finished" muzzle ie/ crowned.
I did these things...it was actually somewhat painless... and now for all you guys out there with shorty m14 barrels.....who haven't informed the cfc of the barrel length change..... an FRT has been created. Apparently..... you can get into hot water with a cfo or C.O or rcmp (though prolly only in ontario
).... if they run your reggie and the barrel length doesn't match the reggie card...... LOL what next
