Can I say i hate .40 cal

My dad has a beretta 96 and I cannot shoot any good groups with it, but if I use almost any other handgun I have tried I do decent. The beretta is the only .40 I have shot
 
Unless you reload, you are pretty much shooting a .40 (power wise)with the anemic 10mm factory ammo we have up here. Just paying more to do so..
 
I would cheerfully buy a Sig pistol or an M&P in 10mm if such a thing existed. I find the .40 to be a bit 'snappy' but I'm quite okay with that..the 9mm feels like a .22 to me...not really a serious cartridge at all. Good for girls and small children, maybe...
 
joe.danay said:
So you hate something that shoots a bullet with almost as much weight as a .45 and almost as much velocity as a 9mm? Whatever, it's a free country!
I personally like my .40 cal because it's not as "snappy" as my S&W 500 Magnum.
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key words there. It's "almost" a good round :p:stirthepot2::nest:cou:
 
The OP seems to be suffering from ammo availability envy and is throwing 40 S&W under the bus because 10mm isn't readily available. Not much of a caliber debate.
 
40 is my favorite pistol round. Ive owned them all too. The 10mm comes into its own if you handload but the factory stuff up here just doesn't live up to its potential. The 40 is loaded down as well I believe. I have a 40 cal handload using 180gr Lee tumble lube bullets that I cast and a starting load of Longshot that averages 1155fps out of both my M&P and SIG 226. That's right on the heels of the 10mm in a smaller package. The 10mm really doesn't come out a whole lot faster from my Glock 20 due to the barrel length being similar to the Sig and M&P. Now run that 10mm in a 6"bbl and you've got something.
 
I'd say the .45 is "pushy" compared to the .40 being "snappy". As for the 500 mag, firing 20 rounds leaves your hand tingling for hours. I don't think words can describe the awesome power of 500. Anyone who disagrees has likely never actually fired one and is just quoting what they read on the internet. I let my gf try my handguns, starting with 9mm and working up in power. After watching her almost get faced with the .44 mag, I refused to let her try the 500.
 
infidel29 said:
key words there. It's "almost" a good round :p:stirthepot2::nest:cou:
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Ever look up the kinetic energy of the .40 S&W vs. .45 ACP? The performance of the .40 is fairly impressive for a cartridge that is smaller than the .45 ACP.
The .40 also yields better penetration through car windows than a .45 being one of the reasons LE were using the .40 S&W. You won't see those test results available anywhere for public eyes, and yes it's a very "what if" scenario. Most of my paper targets don't attempt vehicular homicide. I have a .40 cal Walther P99 because my LEO buddy needed to sell his and I needed a first handgun! Yes the recoil seems worse than my .45 but the P99 is much lighter. I'm a caliber junky, I like diversity. There were plenty of recoil dampening devices suggested earlier, LOL.
 
I dunno I find a difference between snap and kick personally,

I prefer shooting .45 over 9mm, I just don't enjoy the feel of the .40 when I shoot it, maybe its just me, I also have large hands and am a fairly large guy so I prefer the full size heavy pistols personally.

The biggest pistol I've ever personally fired was a Ruger in .41 magnum with hot custom loads and it was plenty to the point its not practical :p
 
Petamocto said:
I'm getting my Gen4 G20 out for its first firing on Friday. Super excited.

It's not like ammo is ridiculously expensive, by the way. The Remington 10mm UMC for $32/50, or just over 60c a round. Heck, that's cheap compared to the decent quality 223 and 30-06 I'm used to buying.

You may say "Well it still costs more per round than a 9mm trigger pull", to which my answer would be "Of course it does, it's providing twice the power per round on the target, but only costs a fraction more" (500-800 lb/ft compared to 300-500).

Sure, shot placement counts, but you have to admit that it's pretty badass to outgun a 357 Magnum with a practically stoppage-free Glock semi-auto.
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Well said, which is why I say why .40
 
TDC said:
Cost and availability are what keep people away from 10mm.

Tdc
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+1

Had a .40 S&W barrel fitted to my Colt Delta so I could take advantage of both worlds.

Lot's of free once fired .40 S&W brass kicking around these parts. Same can't be said for 10mm brass.

Personally, I like the .40 S&W, too.

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Don't have any .40's and .45's at the moment. Decided to stick to 9mm due to cost and ease of reloading for 1 pistol caliber... I've had and reloading for .40 .45acp, 10mm .357mag and .44mag, but the paper targets didn't care for extra power and my wallet started complaining. More calibers to reload, also means more time spent (which I don't have lately) reloading and shopping for components and of course paying more compared to 9mm.
 
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