Can I say i hate .40 cal

im amazed this thread is getting this much attention, Im not looking for soft, some others have mentioned they noticed a difference between snappy and push or kick, I dunno it really must just be the way I shoot personally, my aim is fine, it just feels wrong to me is all
 
joe.danay said:
Ever look up the kinetic energy of the .40 S&W vs. .45 ACP? The performance of the .40 is fairly impressive for a cartridge that is smaller than the .45 ACP.
The .40 also yields better penetration through car windows than a .45 being one of the reasons LE were using the .40 S&W. You won't see those test results available anywhere for public eyes, and yes it's a very "what if" scenario. Most of my paper targets don't attempt vehicular homicide. I have a .40 cal Walther P99 because my LEO buddy needed to sell his and I needed a first handgun! Yes the recoil seems worse than my .45 but the P99 is much lighter. I'm a caliber junky, I like diversity. There were plenty of recoil dampening devices suggested earlier, LOL.
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yeah, I was just trying to be a poop disturber, lol! its really nice in terms of velocity and trajectory. I myself find it a bit too snappy so my follow up shots suffer, but thats just me. The other thing to watch for is that it does take a toll on handguns because it is a higher pressure round.
 
Ar180shooter said:
Heavier bullet than a 9mm, higher velocity than a .45, best of both worlds, no?
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agreed, although it is a higher pressure round so the gun may require replacement parts sooner than a 45 or 9. Although many people dont shoot enough to wear out a handgun in their lifetime.
 
I've heard the debate between .40 and 9mm since I got into shooting. Personally, I prefer the .40, and don't own any 9mm handguns. I've fired both calibres out of the same platforms (M&P/P226)and shot the .40 more accurately and consistently out of both. I'm also able to get back on target a bit easier with the .40. As far as I know, the Glock 22 is one of the most popular Law Enforcement firearms in Canada, and there is a reason for that.

People prefer what they prefer. The debate will never end.
 
It's not the caliber that matters, it's the gun. Look at a gun like a Boberg or HK P7. Both produce significant less recoil than regular 9mm guns.
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Sure each design will have different recoil characteristics. My comment was about same platform caliber/recoil comparison.
 
These endless recoil issues. In my view it all comes down to matching the cartridge to the gun. I find a hot 9mm in a light gun a bit snappy but a 44Mag in a long barrel S & W revolver no problem at all. My 1911, no problem with recoil as it a heavy gun. If you shoot 40 s & w in a 24oz gun its going to be snappy, in a heavier gun no problem. Light weight guns and larger calibre are always going to have a recoil issue. It is simple physics. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The heavier the gun the slower (read less snappy) it will move under a given load. I think the main problem with the 40 is most of the guns available are based on the 9mm and are a bit light for the cartridge.
 
cadgo said:
When I first moved down here I only bought 40sw pistols due to availability. You couldn't find a box of 9mm or 45acp anywhere but there was always 40sw on the shelf. I like it now. If you have a problem shooting it, the problem lies with you, not the cartridge.
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I do find .40S&W Glocks a little snappy, but that's nothing that can't be overcome with proper technique and training. I also find other platforms like P226's and USP's smoother in .40S&W.
 
Reduce the recoil dramatically by replacing the factory 17 pound recoil spring with a 22 or 24 pound Wolff recoil spring. It makes a big difference in reducing recoil on a .40 Glock. It's a cheap fix and it works.
 
I love my .40 S&W pistols. I own two of them...a SIG P226 Tacops, and a Heckler & Koch USP. Personally, I feel that the .40 is the perfect blend of 9 and 45...both guns shoot great, feel great, and are very smooth shooting pistols. I don't reload, and that's pretty much the only reason why I don't shoot them as much as I'd like. 9mm is a few bucks cheaper per box, so that caliber gets most of my attention. But in the grand scheme if things, between the three more common calibers, the .40 S&W would be my caliber if choice...if it came down to selecting just one, that is...

Just my 2 cents...
 
fact is .40 shelf ammo is major pf all the way. this caliber ask to be reloaded. i have a recipe with a 180 tcfm that recoil and muzzle flip noticeably less than 9mm shelf ammo.


3.7grs of VV320 under a 180tcfm loaded at 1.135 is very soft and accurate out of my G35
 
strider007 said:
I love my .40 S&W pistols. I own two of them...a SIG P226 Tacops, and a Heckler & Koch USP. Personally, I feel that the .40 is the perfect blend of 9 and 45...both guns shoot great, feel great, and are very smooth shooting pistols. I don't reload, and that's pretty much the only reason why I don't shoot them as much as I'd like. 9mm is a few bucks cheaper per box, so that caliber gets most of my attention. But in the grand scheme if things, between the three more common calibers, the .40 S&W would be my caliber if choice...if it came down to selecting just one, that is...

Just my 2 cents...
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X2 on that point!
 
infidel29 said:
agreed, although it is a higher pressure round so the gun may require replacement parts sooner than a 45 or 9.....
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The whole "it is a higher pressure round" thing is nothing more then poor information regurgitated through the internet generally by those with a bias against the .40 (who also usually blame it for the infamous Glock "kaboom").
Look up the SAAMI PSI specs for .40, 9mm, 9mm+P, .357 Sig, .38 super, .357 Mag, and 10mm...then tell me why the .40 stands out alone as a high pressure round.
 
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