Can someone help ID this gun?
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English Hunting gun or English Fowling piece, depending on the rifling (if any) and the bore size. Judging by the drop and lack of sights, I would say fowling piece, is it smooth bored? Pretty for its age, but likely a wall hanger.
You can check its country of origin by the proof marks on the barrel. They should be either on the left 11 o'clock flat at the breach or at the breach end on the bottom of the barrel. English will be sort of X shaped probably with a crown over and belgian will be an oval with ELG* inside plus possible a peron (looks like an Eiffel Tower) or a double british pound symbol, both of which are view marks. It will probably have the guage stamped on the barrel as well. It would not surprise me if it was still safe to shoot provided somebody knowledgeable examined it for you
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The East Coast "punt" guns I've seen have a hole drilled through the stock to secure a lanyard to the gunwale of a boat. (You don't want to lose it overboard). Does yours have this provision?
I don't see a hole drilled through the stock.
Faint checkering on the stock from years ago, looks to be fine and done by a good craftsman.
Barrel starts out as octagon or hex(will have to check) then goes to round.
My grandfather fired it about 30 years ago with a light load, action is still functioning today.
Again guys, thanks for the responses to the post, appreciated as always.
Faint checkering on the stock from years ago, looks to be fine and done by a good craftsman.
Barrel starts out as octagon or hex(will have to check) then goes to round.
My grandfather fired it about 30 years ago with a light load, action is still functioning today.
Again guys, thanks for the responses to the post, appreciated as always.
What is the BORE and what is the LENGTH OF BARREL?
I have a very similar-appearing gun, came from Newfoundland, described as a Three-Quarter Gun. The 46-inch barrel is a .751, making it about 11-bore.
Many of these were made as 'prentice guns by the apprentices at the big London and Birmingham gunmaking shops. Apprentices worked on these cheap ($6 to $9) guns until they were good enough to go on to making fine doubles. Army-type Locks were used on MANY of them because it was a good, proven design AND most of the shops were set up to make it because of Army procurement policies up to the point that Enfield could handle all the needs. One thing you will find is that even though many of these 'prentice locks will FIT an Army rifle, often they are of inferior quality, sometimes even with unhardened Lock-plates.
Apart from rust, one problem common to many of these is the Hammer recessing itself over time from battering against that Nipple, which WAS hardened. I bought a small welder last year in order to repair my own Three-Quarter Gun, which has this problem.
I do know that so many of these were made that Ashbourne's in Twillingate still was advertising them as late as 1902.
There is nothing wrong with the Barrels on these; they took exactly the same Proof tests as the expensive ones. These just were a bit heavier.
These are a fun old thing and, even if you are not out trying for a "shot of ducks" or a mess of Turrs, you can still patch up a .69" or .72" Ball, put 70 grains of FFg behind it and amaze yourself with what it will do to a railroad tie.
Wonderful old piece!
Do have fun!
I have a very similar-appearing gun, came from Newfoundland, described as a Three-Quarter Gun. The 46-inch barrel is a .751, making it about 11-bore.
Many of these were made as 'prentice guns by the apprentices at the big London and Birmingham gunmaking shops. Apprentices worked on these cheap ($6 to $9) guns until they were good enough to go on to making fine doubles. Army-type Locks were used on MANY of them because it was a good, proven design AND most of the shops were set up to make it because of Army procurement policies up to the point that Enfield could handle all the needs. One thing you will find is that even though many of these 'prentice locks will FIT an Army rifle, often they are of inferior quality, sometimes even with unhardened Lock-plates.
Apart from rust, one problem common to many of these is the Hammer recessing itself over time from battering against that Nipple, which WAS hardened. I bought a small welder last year in order to repair my own Three-Quarter Gun, which has this problem.
I do know that so many of these were made that Ashbourne's in Twillingate still was advertising them as late as 1902.
There is nothing wrong with the Barrels on these; they took exactly the same Proof tests as the expensive ones. These just were a bit heavier.
These are a fun old thing and, even if you are not out trying for a "shot of ducks" or a mess of Turrs, you can still patch up a .69" or .72" Ball, put 70 grains of FFg behind it and amaze yourself with what it will do to a railroad tie.
Wonderful old piece!
Do have fun!
