Can someone please explain IPSC Scoring to me?

MikiP

MikiP

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Okay, just shot the Q13 at Phoenix in Edmonton, this last weekend, and I am completely confused by the scoring process, and How I and a multitude of others received a big Goose egg on a couple of stages. This is my first match, so bear with me. I'm very new to this and trying to make sense as best I can.

I've combed through the rule book, but still no joy. I shot major power factor, and I'm reading A hits are worth 5 pnts, C hits are worth 4, and D hits are worth 1. NS, M, and P are worth -10, with a maximum of 2 or -20, per hit or miss on the target, or extra as it pertains.

For example:

One Virginia Count stage, I got procedurals for 3 extra rounds, but I never fired extra rounds. I had 1 no shoot, and 5 misses. Went like this:

T1= 3xM
T2= 1xA, 2xC, 1xNS, 1xP
T3= 1xA, 1xC, 1xM
T4= 3xC, 1xP
T5= 1xA, 1xC, 1xM
T6= 3xA, 1xP

My math says I got:

30 Points for A Hits, 28 pnts for C Hits= 58
-40 Points for Misses, -10 for NS, -30 for P

Clearly, with those combined I minus out to zero the way its scored. I'm just wondering if this was scored accuarately by the crusty Polish dude in the red ferrari shirt.

Next example for clarity is this (wondering why my score is low). This is Comstock scored

T1= 1xA, 1xC, 1x NS
T2= 2xA
T3= 2xA, 1x NS
T4= 1xC, 1xM
T5= 1xA, 1xC
T6= 1xA, 1xC
T7= 1xA, 1xM
T8= 1xC, 1xD
T9= 2xA
Steel= 5

By my math, I Scored

375 for A/steel hits
20 for C hits
1 for D hit
= 396

minus 40 for NS and M= 356.

I got 57. Now, I'm not really complaining about this score, as the stage winner got 93 pnts, and the highest pnts was 113. I just wanna understand this.

To be clear, I was ranked DFL. No biggie, I'm new to this and had I understood the scoring better or actually practiced, maybe I would have come 2nd DFL.


My next question is more directed at anyone that shot there, and I want to clear something up. The Polish dude in the Red Ferarri shirt that RO'd first half of the morning, shot the second half of the morning. He was shooting I thought was in Open division (pistol was scoped). Maybe I'm confusing him with someone else (there were more than 2 polish dudes- myself included), but the stats show that he was shooting Standard div. Is this legit?

Don't want to be stepping out my lane, but just want clarity and transparency.

Thanks.
 
Usually if there are scoring errors, it is because the info on the score sheet was not legible, or non-existent and the Stats person had to make a guess because the match was over with, and no one to back it up with! Or you got someone else's score sheet, because names weren't on the sheets, and again, the stats person had to guess! Those are my thoughts anyways!
 
MikiP said:
Next example for clarity is this (wondering why my score is low). This is Comstock scored

T1= 1xA, 1xC, 1x NS
T2= 2xA
T3= 2xA, 1x NS
T4= 1xC, 1xM
T5= 1xA, 1xC
T6= 1xA, 1xC
T7= 1xA, 1xM
T8= 1xC, 1xD
T9= 2xA
Steel= 5

By my math, I Scored

375 for A/steel hits
20 for C hits
1 for D hit
= 396

minus 40 for NS and M= 356.

I got 57. Now, I'm not really complaining about this score, as the stage winner got 93 pnts, and the highest pnts was 113. I just wanna understand this.
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57 is the correct score (unless Polish math is different from regular math).

Your A/steel hits = 75 (not 375), your C hits = 20 and D hits = 2 (not 1) for a total of 97. Minus 20 for miss penalties and minus 20 for NS penalties = 57
 
5,4,2 for Major.

I score you at 57 for that stage. 97 points earned of a possible 115 with -40 in NS and Misses.

But that's what you shot. Then you have to look at your percentage of the winner to figure out what you ended up with for stage points.
 
Okay. I need more sleep. My math (Polish, lol!) is now tracking. What I was doing was assigning the 5 Points per hit, adding them, then multiplying again by the Zone value. No wonder I'm adding so high. 75x5= 375. f:P:2:

More time doing Grade 2 math again.

Sorry to take your time guys.
 
MikiP said:
One Virginia Count stage, I got procedurals for 3 extra rounds, but I never fired extra rounds. I had 1 no shoot, and 5 misses.
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If it was Virginia Count then it is highly likely there was a mandatory reload in there somewhere. Was there? Did you do the reload between the right rounds? For every shot past where you are supposed to do a reload you get a procedural.

Since this was an IPSC Alberta match you could always ask on the IPSC Alberta forums. That way we can be reminded of how the stage was set up (mandatory reloads or not, mandatory order to shoot the targets or not), and explain where the procedurals came from. We don't bite.
 
96 Brig, I shot the stage correctly with the required reloads in between the 6/7th, 12/13th rounds. I just talked to Sam, and I guess there was an issue with my squad being penalized incorrectly. I'll post on the IPSC site in future though.

Thanks to all who replied, I'm wiser now.

Oh, and the beer. Well, when I get back to this country I'll buy
:cheers:
 
Good for you trying to understand the sport better. As 96Brig said, feel free to ask on the IPSC Alberta forum, no one will chew you out.

As for the Ferrari shirt, real shooters drive Fords. You will eventually understand why I say that.

Steve
 
yeah they started out scoring incorrectly. Once it was discovered, to be fair to the first 2 squads, they carried it out for all squads explaining in advance. They did this for the afternoon squads as well.
 
Wrong approach from what I can gather here. The first two squads should have reshot, or the stage tossed.
 
I disagree, i thought it was well handled and a fair decision made. No one complained once it was explained...I came in the afternoon but i imagine many of the Calgary participants didn't want to wait around an extra hour or more for re-shoots when many had a 3-4 hour drive still to get back home. And that would have delayed everyone not just the 2 squads.

Seemed reasonable to me, but I'm not a match official, just a hole taper, so just my new to the sport opinion.
 
Nope..........if there were changes the stage(s) should be tossed from the results. It sucks but it would have been the right thing to do. Either that or if it was a CONSISTENT missapplication of the rules (re Proceedurals) then those with the incorrect methodology should have their score sheets adapted and rescored.
 
Bingo, misapplication of the rules is not how to run a match, the rule book must be followed, not should be.
 
lakewalker said:
I disagree, i thought it was well handled and a fair decision made. No one complained once it was explained...I came in the afternoon but i imagine many of the Calgary participants didn't want to wait around an extra hour or more for re-shoots when many had a 3-4 hour drive still to get back home. And that would have delayed everyone not just the 2 squads.

Seemed reasonable to me, but I'm not a match official, just a hole taper, so just my new to the sport opinion.
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Reasonable and properly adhering to the rules are not necessarily the same thing in IPSC. The rules must be followed, period, not changed at a whim to make things easier.
 
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