Can the CFO inspect your firearms at any time without a warrant??

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I heard that if anyone reports you to the CFO as owning 10 or more firearms in Ontario, then the CFO can come into your house without a warrant to inspect them? Is this for real? What are the rules and circumstances about who, when and how someone can inspect your firearms? :confused:
 
No they cannot

This is for Firearm Collectors

Firearm Collectors

Fact Sheet

If you are thinking about collecting firearms, here is some information you need to know about how the Firearms Act and its supporting regulations affect you. The information in this fact sheet does not apply to firearms that meet the definition of an antique firearm as set out in the Criminal Code and Criminal Code Regulations.


Inspections

The Firearms Act allows for periodic inspections of firearms collections. The main purpose of inspections is to ensure that all firearms in a collection can be accounted for and that the firearms are stored safely, as set out in the Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Individuals Regulations.

When inspecting a firearm collection in a residence, inspectors may only inspect parts of a residence where they can reasonably expect to find firearms and records of a firearms collection. They must give reasonable notice and obtain your consent or a warrant before they carry out the inspection.
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http://www.grc-rcmp.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/collector-collecteur-eng.htm

Not much for target shooters....

http://www.grc-rcmp.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/index-eng.htm

nothing listed there for inspections


Use this link for more information

http://www.grc-rcmp.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/index-eng.htm

it will tell you almost all you want to know
 
Likely goes under same rules for everything else... Unless they have reason to search they have no right. IE if they pull you over and you have a shotgun sitting on the seat just sitting there, not in a case, ect... They will prob. have an issue and search your car... Same if they come knocking on the door for some reason or another they cannot come in without warrant or reasonable grounds for entry IE suspicion of something (seeing something in plain view, like something smashed up or someone smashed up)..

So I would say no, they cannot inspect your firearms. Besides, what have you to worry about?!
 
This is my interpretation of the legislation.

You must ask the cops (if no advanced warning of an inspection):
"Do you have probable cause to believe that I am in contravention of the law?"

If the answer is NO deny them access untill they provide a warrant.
If they press the issue then they are in contranention of the charter and all evidence gathered is inadmissable.

If they do have probable cause and can prove it then they can perform an inspection without a warrant.

Otherwise they must give you advance notice of the inspection.
 
Pschilly said:
Likely goes under same rules for everything else... Unless they have reason to search they have no right. IE if they pull you over and you have a shotgun sitting on the seat just sitting there, not in a case, ect... They will prob. have an issue and search your car...
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The last time I checked having a non restricted was perfectly legal in plain view. They better have a damn good reason (and a warrant) other than the gun in plain view if they want to search my vehicle...
 
"When inspecting a firearm collection in a residence, inspectors may only inspect parts of a residence where they can reasonably expect to find firearms and records of a firearms collection."

This is the part which concerns me, what exactly does this encompass? Just my firearms safe or does this open up every part of my residence for inspection? As (based on size) one could have firearms in every closet and drawer in their house. Could anyone clarify this point for me?
 
What scares me is that when they updated the Act that I enforce, they pretty much copied that same paragraph giving us the right to inspect stuff far beyond what we need to look at. it creeping nanny state not out of malice but out of laziness, bad writing and lack of respect for rights.
 
I remember the intent quite well because I read the info sheets hundreds of times back in 1995? when Rock introduced the legislation. The end result might be different but the intent went like this.

Inspections applied to restricted and prohibited only, be it a handgun, rifle or shotgun. If you acquired as a collector one gun made you subject to the search provision. If you were a member of a gun club the you had to hit the eleven mark.

I also think the intent was, you would comply if asked. They didn't realize back then that some Canadians actually have a brain, can think for them selves and would say NO!
 
Colin said:
What scares me is that when they updated the Act that I enforce, they pretty much copied that same paragraph giving us the right to inspect stuff far beyond what we need to look at. it creeping nanny state not out of malice but out of laziness, bad writing and lack of respect for rights.
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That strikes so well at the heart of the matter it is astonishing.
 
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