Can you believe this bull#### EE ad?

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I got no problem with him asking a sh&t load for his goods, or anyone else for that matter.
I do have a problem with the way he embelished the add.
-state the facts, the price and a picture. Leave the bullsh%t out.
 
Personally, I feel the advertisement should be marked by an administrator, if not removed entirely. Have a link inserted to current pricing for a brand new CZ. We have no need for people like this around here IMHO.

I just hope he is not lying about health problems in the family, as he seems to be with the majority of ad. That's the stuff karma thrives on.

They do look interesting, and @ 400 I might jump....but that's a big loss apparently!
 
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I don't know squat about shotties, but I know that Gunnar has a very good reputation. "Practically giving it away" might be exaggeration, but it's not an unreasonable price, from what I can see.
 
stevebc said:
I don't know squat about shotties, but I know that Gunnar has a very good reputation. "Practically giving it away" might be exaggeration, but it's not an unreasonable price, from what I can see.
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I would call Gunnar's prices on the high end of reasonable. Free market.
 
Considering Wholesale has Mossbergs from $210 - 270 brand new, I'd say it was on the high side for a used shotgun but no worse than asking $550 + (plus shipping)for a bone stock M14S that can be bought for $399.
 
Should we have a committee to vet all ads before they are allowed to run? Should the mods get involved if a price is higher than people think it should be? If there is downright deception? I've seen ridiculous prices, and ads that were less than honest. What is price gouging? I have an ex-Danish M-1. Bought it years ago at dealer cost, downgraded because it had a cracked handguard. Repaired the handguard. Paid $125 for it plus delivery and tax. Ones that look like this one sell readily for $500 these days. Would that be gouging? Should I be obligated to sell it for $150 delivered, so as not to be accused of gouging?
 
False advertising is one thing. Trying to sell for what the market will bear is quite another. It should be no one's business what someone charges. If you don't like the price, don't buy, but that doesn't give anyone the right to get all up on their high horse. If the item appeals to you, but you don't like the price, barter with the seller. Above all 'caveat emptor'. After all, it is a free country and market system. One man's garbage is another man's gold.

I bought a large number of M14s, as an investment. When I decide to sell, why should I take a loss and sell them for what I paid for them, just to satisfy the people that didn't have the foresight to buy them when they were cheap.

Maybe someone will sell me some gold today for $35.00\oz (1972), because that's what you bought it for back then and charging fair market value today offends your sensibilities.:onCrack:
 
I don't really care about what people ask for their stuff...When ever I buy a gun I reaserch the going prices and know what is too much and what is a right price. IMO if someone is too lazy to do a basic research they almost deserve to get suckered.
 
I didn't comment if it was good or bad, I was simply stating the similarities.

If I put my Norc on here for $1,000,000 it is my right to do so, others have the right not to buy it and it will likely be bumped to death in the EE. I just find it funny that some people ask more than new prices for things that are still available to be bought new and at a cheaper price. Still, they may get a pigeon that doesn't bother to check to see what new is worth and will pay the higher price for the used model, that is the risk of the EE.
 
I try to collect Ross rifles. As most folks know, the history of a Ross may well be stamped on its stock. This is part of the history of the rifle, turns it into a specific historical artifact instead of just being a representative specimen of a type of rifle with production in the 100s of thousands.
A number of years ago, India sold off a quantity of P-14 and Ross drill rifles that had pins welded through their barrels, with corresponding notches cut into the forends just in front of the receiver rings.
I have seen two Ross rifles offered for sale, one on CGN, and one by a well known and high priced dealer, with patches inletted where these notches had been. The barrels weren't welded, so the stocks were obviously replacements; no doubt the rifles had been sported and restocked. Both ads waxed eloquent about the history of the rifles, neither ad. mentionned that the rifles were restored bitsers. The prices did not reflect the fact that the rifles were pieced together. Deceptive advertising? Sure. Outright fraud? Well, the repairs were obvious enough in the photos that anyone who knew what to look for would see them. Were the sellers aware? The one on CGN was; I told him what the significance of the patches was. The ad. didn't get changed, nor was the price adjusted.
 
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I don't give a rats ass what someone advertises their items for.

What I care about is the bull#### that is placed in the ad.

Making claims that are unfounded and or untrue just stand to
potentially rip someone who may be less-than-initiated off.

Would this be how we'd wish to welcome newcomers to the firearms
world? I think not.
 
If the post in EE has violated any rules the ad should be removed, but seeing it is still there it must be okay. Two $400 guns and 12 $50 mags adds up to $1400 and he is asking $1650. The guns are Czechoslovakian or CZ although not Ceska Zbrojovka or the CZ we think of. If only 1000 or so worldwide were made , it is rare and if only a couple of hundred came to Canada they are still rare. If you read the attachment in the ad , he is quoting printed info on the gun. He is asking maybe $250 higher than maybe you would want to pay most people do when the put in prices. It also looks like a prospective buyer backed away. I sure would be POed if someone with a BURR in their butt , FCKED up a sale of mine. Can't we leave it to the moderators to control if something is correct or not. We have enough Range Nazi's and wannabe moderators.
 
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If the post in EE has violated any rules the ad should be removed, but seeing it is still there it must be okay. Two $400 guns and 12 $50 mags adds up to $1400 and he is asking $1650. The guns are Czechoslovakian or CZ although not Ceska Zbrojovka or the CZ we think of. If only 1000 or so worldwide were made , it is rare and if only a couple of hundred came to Canada they are still rare. If you read the attachment in the ad , he is quoting printed info on the gun. He is asking maybe $250 higher than maybe you would want to pay most people do when the put in prices. It also looks like a prospective buyer backed away. I sure would be POed if someone with a BURR in their butt , FCKED up a sale of mine. Can't we leave it to the moderators to control if something is correct or not. We have enough Range Nazi's and wannabe moderators.
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HAHAHAHAHA

"The sum of the parts does not the valuation make"

One can't always relate value to what was spent. If he paid $50.00 per mag on those abortions called pistols, then his loss.

Subsequently, a few of something and they being "rare" once again; does not equal high valuation.

Hmmm, let's see... Corvair vans = rare = worth diddly

Australian Arms Leader Rifle = rare = worth diddly

I could go on (and on)...
 
IM_Lugger said:
I don't really care about what people ask for their stuff...When ever I buy a gun I reaserch the going prices and know what is too much and what is a right price. IMO if someone is too lazy to do a basic research they almost deserve to get suckered.
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I agree. However, blatant lies in the ad should not be accepted. Attempting to increase the interest in your sale by lying about its specs or availability borders on fraud.

On a side note. I personally am tired of seeing ads where the owner posts the price(s) that they paid for said item. I don't care. The original purchase price of the item has little reference to what I could or would pay for an item. The current replacement value is the benchmark which all prices will be judged against. Again, a little research will aid in avoiding a bad deal. This goes for both seller and buyer. Attempting to sell a VZ58 with ONE magazine for $650 shipped is an insult to those who are shopping. The buyer is not stupid, they know what the going rate is. That being said, if you expect to move your goods. Know the current replacement value, know the contents of an original package deal, and expect to lose money. Fools pay retail for used goods....

TDC
 
TDC said:
I agree. However, blatant lies in the ad should not be accepted. Attempting to increase the interest in your sale by lying about its specs or availability borders on fraud.
TDC
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:agree:

You can ask whatever price you want, even if it ridiculous, but don't try to bulls**t any follow CGner
 
We are such a welcoming group, we are calling the seller a lier now. As an ad it was pretty informative, even if you don't like the price. He even included outside information http://guns.connect.fi/gow/czg2000.html for more information on the guns. The question is not are the guns , 2 of them and 12 magazines, any good or worth whatever was asked , but did he lie or exaggerate the claims, they are limited production which could mean rare, are they CZ ,yes they are just not Ceska Zbrojovka. Also we should all look at the rules and stickies on EE . Look at this sticky www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=142164
 
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