Canada food guide
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VanIsleCam
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Just posted a couple of pics of the young gun preparing venison burgers with home grown bacon etc. on the family Whatsapp thread. Mentioned the "Food Guide" recommends wild game. Also suggested that family members willing to get their R/PALs and hunting licenses were welcome to come over to harvest some food guide safe meat.
canadian hunter312
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You're trying to tell me you weren't implying those farmed cows, pigs and chickens are loaded with antibiotics, growth hormones and steroids? Because what you've typed sure makes it look like you were.
You're here claiming wild game is organic even though you live in Southern Ontario where every wild animal you'd hunt likely feeds off GMO and chemically grown and sprayed crops for a large portion of their lives. It's awesome that my sig applies to you so well and you don't even realize it.
I live and hunt where wild game IS wild, and I prefer it over any store bought meat... my wife suffers from an auto-immune condition and she can eat the wild meat I bring home without symptom flare-up, but that is not always the case with store bought meats.
Many of the posts in this thread read like "lobby group" rhetoric.
As a farmer in the affected industries, I get how this new "Food Guide" can feel threatening to your income/family security. As a hunter, I like seeing anything that says what we do is positive in any way... because sure as heck feels like we have been hacked on for decades.
Many of the posts in this thread read like "lobby group" rhetoric.
As a farmer in the affected industries, I get how this new "Food Guide" can feel threatening to your income/family security. As a hunter, I like seeing anything that says what we do is positive in any way... because sure as heck feels like we have been hacked on for decades.
blasted_saber
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Because its the "Canada Food Guide" not the emergency preparedness plan.
The odds overwhelmingly favour youre going to be able to buy oranges at the grocer next week over there being a disaster requiring you to eat pickles.
Anyways
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1963beretta
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I think you need to stop making assumptions about anything anyone writes and assumptions on how or what anyone hunts based on where they live. That is extremely narrow minded thinking
First off, I was being facetious in the comment that I think you are referred to and that you proceeded to use your imaginaion to expand on.
Secondly, your “quote” was an attempt to put words in my mouth. No where did I make mention to Canadian anything. Doing so would imply that I believe the meat available for purchase only comes from Canadian sources. If you belive that, then you are wrong. And now that we’re on this point, you should do some research on where our products come from and the laws, regulations and controls put in place to monitor such practices in those particular places of origin
Thirdly, lumping beef, chicken and pork into the same category is extremely inaccurate when it is well known that each industry follows different guidlines regarding use of antibiotics, growth hormones, etc. or a combination of any of the such practices. And that is all your doing. My post only made reference to deer. I dont make assumptions about what anyone purchases or consumes.
Fourthly, you are now making additinal assumptions based on where you believe I live. You dont know anything about me...where I live, what I hunt and what I eat. You need to stop making assumptions and you need to stop attempting to put words in my mouth.
I will say this....which you will now know one thing about me with certainty. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I have a medical conditon that is considered an autoimmune disease. It is extremely important for me to know everything I can about the food I consume. With regards to farmed meat, my biggest concern in relation to my illness is to the use of antibiotics. The use of antibiotics is approved in Canada and the US in relation to farming. In Canada alone, 80% of all antibiotics used is used in the agriculture industry. As of mid 2018, this equated to 1.6 million kg of antibiotics. Google is your friend if you want to verify. Antibiotics are approved for use in beef, dairy cattle, chicken, laying hens, turkey, pork and fish. Health Canada sets the maximum amount of antibiotics that is left in food for human consumption. In other words, there is some level of antibiotics in our meats that is deemed to be acceptable. For some like me, or like Hoyt’s wife as mentioned above, ANY level of antibiotics is a problem. Plain and simple. I would bet that if all sources of meat were tested, the existence of such antibiotics or antibodies would be greatly different between farmed meat and wild game.
With regards to your signature, I’m of the opinion that the troll was you looking to start an argument. You falsely quoted me with ludicrous assumptions, trying to put words in my mouth with no thought to what you were actually saying. I could easily add or expand on any of my points, but its not necessary.
I can only responsible for what I say, not for what you understand
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My whole family much prefers eating wild BC mule deer, elk, grouse, and moose meat than anything available in the store - regardless of price.
BigUglyMan
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No, it's not. The requirements to call something "organic"'are very stringent and as there is no way to determine what a wild animal was eating, you cannot call it "organic".
1963beretta
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- Vaughan, Ontario
Apparently nothing is as it seems. You can take your chances however you wish....and I will take mine
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.the...mislabelling-organic-chicken/article32502431/
https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/10/12/fraud-farmers-caught-selling-conventional-crops-organic-13506
https://chimicles.com/organic-food-...abeling-practices-class-action-investigation/
https://www.apnews.com/db6dcad19f6d405ea331ca4be38fd12f
1963beretta
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I was hunting a farm this past weekend that has cattle and is a certified organic producer. These are just a small sample of what was located in the barn next to the ear tags and syringes. I didnt even bother to look at the other dozen or so similar bottles to see what was in them. Not sure what kind of wild game is running or flying around with these things in them
I was hunting a farm this past weekend that has cattle and is a certified organic producer. These are just a small sample of what was located in the barn next to the ear tags and syringes. I didnt even bother to look at the other dozen or so similar bottles to see what was in them. Not sure what kind of wild game is running or flying around with these things in them
That is really odd that none of these are in original packaging. It is very suspicious.
As a dairy farmer, the well being of our animals is very important, and the use of antibiotics is sometimes necessary to return them to a healthy state when they are sick.
But withdrawal times are listed on the packaging, and in our industry all treatments must be recorded.
We can be held liable if we allow contaminated product to be sold . In the case of milk production, the milk is sampled when it leaves the farm and the tanker is also tested before unloading. There are large financial penalties associated with contaminating a load of milk.
It is in our best interest to keep our milk clear of antibiotics, both for our individual farms financial benefit and for the benefit of the industry.
Was the farmer there while you did your little undercover operation?? Good reason to keep hunters off farms if they pull this chit. And what is this chit? Staged accusations of improper farming activities.
1963beretta
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Yes he was....and it wasnt an undercover operation in the very least but thanks for having such a great imagination. There is nothing staged and no accusations. Just knowledge gained that others seem to want to deny. And to address your other comment....I was his invited guest. Your uninformed comments were......well very uninformed. The kind of uninformed chit that make people seem simple minded. There is nothing improper here. Its all perfectly fine according to our farming practices and regulations.....which is exactly the point Im trying to make.
Further to that, the farmer was also very open to answering every question I had and allowed me to photograph those bottles so that I could read up on what the medications are used for. In a previous post I made mention that I do my best to know whats in my food....this is a truth, not just a statement.
And to address the previous remark about them not being in the original containers, well the answer to this is because he imports the medications directly from China at a fraction of the cost. In an earlier post, I gave statistics about antibiotic usage in Canada. Now knowing that these meds can also be imported by a farmer with a Vet license directly from China, I wonder how understated those stats could potentially be or how strict “these regulations” really are. That I do not know....but my conversation with the landowner was very informative and for that I am grateful. And to confirm, this was not a dairy farm. I could be wrong, but as I understand it, the regulations for dairy farms and beef farms may be different...not to sure
I get why these types of meds are used. Animals, like people, get sick and need medications to survive. May not be a big deal to most people, but its a big issue for some. I do not and cannot take antibiotics myself. I never have. So I chose to do my best to ensure the food I eat doesnt take antibiotics either
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1963beretta
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Agree on the good luck part.....the very reason why I prefer wild game. While I agree with others who have said you cant guarantee what wild game eat....Im much more comfortable knowing what wild game doesnt have injected in it.
