Canada food guide

Donny Fenn1 said:
Care to back that up with any science?
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You should do a litte research as to why Canada has some of the highest rates of Chrones Disease, Ulcerative Colitis and Multiple Sclerosis in the world and the link those diseases have to what we are consuming. While doing your research I’m sure you will come to learn that there are places in Africa who have ZERO cases of these illnesses which has been linked to their diet which consists of only raw game meat. You may also want to do some research into why health professionals and paediatricians recommend serving wild game to children with moderate to severe autism. Im sure there is a reason for this as well
 
1963beretta said:
You should do a litte research as to why Canada has some of the highest rates of Chrones Disease, Ulcerative Colitis and Multiple Sclerosis in the world and the link those diseases have to what we are consuming. While doing your research I’m sure you will come to learn that there are places in Africa who have ZERO cases of these illnesses which has been linked to their diet which consists of only raw game meat. You may also want to do some research into why health professionals and paediatricians recommend serving wild game to children with moderate to severe autism. Im sure there is a reason for this as well
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Maybe it is because those are hereditary and affect certain races more than others. Sure that's not the only reason to get those but there are more contributing factors than just food. Poor diagnosis, different symptoms, etc. If you look you will see that your ZERO cases is wrong. Need to read more than one article before you make your opinions known to everyone.

https://www.health24.com/Medical/Digestive-health/Crohns-disease/Crohns-Disease-support-20130522
https://www.nationalmssociety.org/What-is-MS/Who-Gets-MS/African-American-Resources
 
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Grizzly Adams said:
So. what nutritional quality makes wild game better than beef, pork or chicken ? I sense a political agenda at play here.

Grizz
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I recall seeing a chart that listed the differences between beef, pork, chicken and i believe elk was the wild meat. It listed the calories and the grams of protein and fat per serving.

The wild meat was lower in fat, higher or similar in protein and had a lower calorie density overall. So eating a wild game steak give you less fat, less calories and similar or more protein, which sounds much healthier to me.
 
I'm sorry but living down here I will take Alberta raised beef over any wild game meat
Don't know or care how you guys raise your animals but keep up the good work :)
No meat IMO tastes that good
Entire family is big red meat eaters which didnot hurt my grandmother who just passed at 99 or my mom who is out shopping this morning at 86
IMO not enough old school meat and potatoes any more being eaten
Cheers

Just to add one thing you will not see here in any of their homes is a micro wave or will they eat or drink from plastic bottles both swore that is killing us prematurely
 
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3macs1 said:
I'm sorry but living down here I will take Alberta raised beef over any wild game meat
Don't know or care how you guys raise your animals but keep up the good work :)
No meat IMO tastes that good
Cheers
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Completely agree. I am sure close to all wild meat is lower in fat content than farmed animals but there is a reason you add fat to sausage! Doesn't mean I don't enjoy wild meat but I would take a beef steak over any wild game steak!
 
AndrewM said:
Maybe it is because those are hereditary and affect certain races more than others. Sure that's not the only reason to get those but there are more contributing factors than just food. Poor diagnosis, different symptoms, etc. If you look you will see that your ZERO cases is wrong. Need to read more than one article before you make your opinions known to everyone.

https://www.health24.com/Medical/Digestive-health/Crohns-disease/Crohns-Disease-support-20130522
https://www.nationalmssociety.org/What-is-MS/Who-Gets-MS/African-American-Resources
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One article? Ya right. Try living with any of those illnesses and see if you can restrict yourself to reading just one article or seeing just one specialist. And my zero comment was in regards to crohns and UC not MS
 
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1963beretta said:
One article? Ya right. Try living with any of those illnesses and see if you can restrict yourself to reading just one article or seeing just one specialist.
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I can't imagine having one of those and I am sorry that you do. I don't have one of those illnesses and I grew up in the oil industry and on farm raised beef. All I am saying is there are other factors at play. Also was saying you were misrepresenting the facts when you said Africa has zero cases. They may have less but definitely not zero.
 
AndrewM said:
Maybe it is because those are hereditary and affect certain races more than others. And you will see that your ZERO cases is wrong. Need to read more than one article before you make your opinions known to everyone.

https://www.health24.com/Medical/Digestive-health/Crohns-disease/Crohns-Disease-support-20130522
https://www.nationalmssociety.org/What-is-MS/Who-Gets-MS/African-American-Resources
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Yes, it is very easy to find information that agrees with our preconceived ideas. Also, our human nature makes it difficult to be objective.
As a retired "Factory Farmer" I can not attest weather wild meat or domestic meat is healthier. However, I can assure you that there are no steroids or hormones used in the hog, chicken, turkey or egg industry. New regulations on antibiotics, greatly restrict the use of ALL antibiotics and the specific use of certain antibiotics that benefit humans, has been banned completely in animal agriculture. Also, it is illegal to ship any animal without following specific withdrawal times to assure that the antibiotics are not present in the animal at slaughter. The fines are very severe for disobeying this.
The argument against GMO is resembling a fanatical religion. Half the farmers in Saskatchewan would be dead, if it was as toxic as some claim. (They are purchasing the concentrate and diluting it down to application levels.)
If you are worried about GMO's, then the only organic wild game is procured in truly wild places.
 
AndrewM said:
I can't imagine having one of those and I am sorry that you do. I don't have one of those illnesses and I grew up in the oil industry and on farm raised beef. All I am saying is there are other factors at play. Also was saying you were misrepresenting the facts when you said Africa has zero cases. They may have less but definitely not zero.
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I did not say that Africa as a whole has zero cases. I said some places in Africa have zero cases. Words matter in this discourse. And naturally, in those places where people are not affected by C & UC have been researched and some findings suggest that it is diet based. Of course there are lots of factors affecting just about anything. But it has been suggested that food consumption can have more to of an impact then hereditary factors. Hereditary factors are attributed to as high as 20% of the cases, but more commonly that realistic number is 5-10%. Food consumption studies attempt to look more in depth all the way to the affects of what is consumed during pregnancy and its impact on a fetus. And links have been made to suggest that some of those hereditary connections are between siblings who shared the same type of diet while they were fetuses, but that link was broken on an inter-generation level. Interesting stuff but highly complicated by a vast number of variables. And those impossible to determine variables is why most doctors and researches remain stuck in the early stages of understanding some of these illnesses. Environemental factors and race factors all play a part in everything which is why research being done on people of the same race but living in different continents and environments leads to all kinds of findings, some of which is contradictory to something else. Too complicated and boring to get into details of everything on a gun and hunting forum.

But I will tell you this...I know what works for me. I love eating meat, always have and always will. And I dont discriminate against what kind of meat I eat. I pretty much like it all (actually that is a lie, fish eating ducks are down right gross). I love eating pork, beef, chicken and the like. But I can assure you that I absolutely notice a differece with my body and the symptoms that follow when I consume farmed meat over wild game meat. Will I stop eating farmed meat, absolutely not. But if I had the ability to consume only wild game meat, I would because I know that I can control my symptoms far better by doing so. No one can tell me otherwise. I cant say it will work for other with UC, but its what certainly works for me. I’m told others have reported the same results, but its neither here or there as far as im concerned
 
tlovell said:
I 100% support Alberta (Canadian) beef growers.
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I agree 100%. To be honest, when I heard about these new recommendions, my first thought was the lack of support for the Canadian meat, milk and egg industry. Im not big on the push of plant based protein. I think many may take that and run with the idea that they can do without meat based proteins. Although I dont really know how many people will actually give a crap about this guide at the end of the day. As mentioned earlier in this thread, the people who published this guide are the same people who published the last one which is now deamed incorrect
 
While I also support Alberta beef as a former beef producer from Manitoba I can tell you it is Canadian farmers one and all we should support. My opinion is that it’s not the raw products we need to be concerned about but processed foods. Without animal protein the world would starve. Getting off our butt and outdoors to hunt probably does us as much good as the food we harvest. Remember most beef in the world is a product of sunshine and water that makes grass grow which we cannot eat until after it passes through a cow and is converted by the rumin to protein.
 
I wonder what we can expect next :(

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1963beretta said:
I guess those deer you speak of are also loaded with antibiotics, growth hormones and steroids? There is a vast difference in the chemical composition of wild meat and store bought meat.
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Could you please post links which show Canadian beef, pork and chicken is "loaded with antibiotics, growth hormones and steroids". Everything I have read says this is not true?
 
canadian hunter312 said:
Could you please post links which show Canadian beef, pork and chicken is "loaded with antibiotics, growth hormones and steroids". Everything I have read says this is not true?
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You can do your own research on whats in the food you eat and where it comes from. And for the record, I did not say what you just quoted above, only you just did. And if I did say “Canadian beef, pork and chicken is loaded with antibiotics” as you have so eloquently “QUOTED”, please indicate which post you are referring to.
 
Cabin fever must be setting in. How this turned into an argument amongst hunters is beyond me.

I think it is fantastic that the new food guide specifically mentions wild game! It is like seeing guns on the rack again in Canadian Tire stores - it helps normalize what we do to the majority of Canadians who don’t shoot or hunt.

I love Canadian beef, dairy, and eggs and the people who produce them. But I don’t think the food guide should be in the business of supporting any particular industry. Here is the list of protein foods taken right from the food guide website so you can judge for yourself whether or not there is some sort of agenda:

eggs

lean meats and poultry
lean cuts of beef, pork and wild game
turkey
chicken

nuts and seeds
peanuts
almonds
cashews
nut butters
sunflower seeds

fish and shellfish
trout
shrimp
salmon
scallops
sardines
mackerel

lower fat dairy products
milk
yogurt
lower sodium cheeses

beans, peas and lentils
brown, green or red or other lentils
peas such as chickpeas and split peas
dried beans such as black beans and kidney beans

fortified soy beverages, tofu, soybeans and other soy products
 
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Game meat will have contact with whatever chemicals are in their environment, but I haven't heard of any game managers successfully vaccinating or selectively drugging a wild deer, moose, duck or goose. If they get sick; they die. Sometimes wildlife populations can be exposed to rabies patties, but no one I know eats raccoon or skunk. Chronic wasting disease is in the wild, and it flares and dies off as the natural fungus and bacteria are fed or starved.

As for the integrity of Canadian agriculture, I know that what was Agriculture Canada put a lot of effort into watching specific captive elk and deer herds once CWD appeared. Because of ear tags and herd recording requirements, those producers whose animals were testing positive had zero option but to destroy their herds. Mmmm! Elk meat for everyone! Similarly when BSE was so bad the Americans shut their borders, producers had no choice but to clean up their acts. No more bone meal in the feed streams, and any suspect animals were separated and destroyed. Unless my knowledge of animal lifespans is wrong, there are no cattle alive today which were alive when BSE was being confronted. So. IMHO, the cattle we are eating, are safe and clean.
 
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