Canada friendly hand gun?

silverfoxdj said:
For competition in the future I'd pick a CZ SP-01 Shadow in 9mm it's as good as it gets out of the box and accurate
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If you are starting out and think you might want to compete, you really can't do better than this imo. you should be able to find a used one in excellent shape for 800 all in.


ronm4c said:
If you can find a HK P7m10 bnib it would fit all those criteria, unfortunately it will set you back like 4 grand
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Or better yet, get the P7M13 in 9mm for 2K, and use it with the P7M10 mag so you can legally shoot 13 rounds of 9mm
 
RedApe said:
go with a Sig P225, it holds 8.

honestly buy what you want. no one in gov is going to care that your holding your nose at them.

"Take that Gov!! I shall abide by your rules of 10 rounds!!'
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The Sig P225 is prohib unless you get one with a longer barrel, do they make those? I heard Sig discontinued the P225 .
 
Josh6499 said:
By all means, tell me what I should want! That Makarov looks perfect though, thanks!
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Sounds like you need to get out to a few stores, and try some guns on for size. If you want to narrow it down even further, get out shooting at a range where you can try out a few guns. Then you will know what works best for you.

If you're a new shooter, it is recommended that you get a .22. You should know that I did not follow that advice and went straight into 9mm. Whatever you decide, I wouldn't go larger than 9mm to start.
 
For $800 your closest bet for compact, comfortable, accurate, 9mm, is the Glock 19. That's new with a restricted barrel. You can get factory 10 round mags so the pinned 15 rounders don't make you crazy. This is the cheapest compact 9mm that gives serious accuracy, and one worth keeping forever. I used to hate Glocks, and this is the one that changed my mind. The 17 and 34 are less accurate in my hands. The SIG P228 is more accurate, but restricted it is at least $300 over your budget. There is a new model (M11?) which is pretty much identical, but I still prefer the one-hole grouping of my P228. The P225 is nice enough, as is the P239, but again, $300+ over budget. There are still a few new P225 pistols around, with factory restricted barrels, but they were only in the USA and mine are stuck in an import nightmare. Hopefully I'll see them before the night sights burn out...

Glock 19. My choice would be one of the many unused factory threaded Gen 3 ones showing up on the EE for $750 shipped.

You can get the threads cut off a factory barrel ("re crowned") if the extended barrel bothers you, or buy one with an aftermarket barrel that sticks out 2mm or so. Good learning gun, capable of more accuracy than most shooters. You can't afford to buy enough ammunition to wear it out. You'll buy a nice house on our beautiful East Coast with the ammunition money it will take to wear out your Glock.
 
As an added note on caliber, from someone who has fired enough rounds over the past 40 years to buy several houses (thank you, tax payers): you want 9mm. Second choice, .40 S&W

9mm is cheaper, more plentiful, and will produce less felt recoil in a locked breech pistol than the much more expensive .380 will in a straight blowback gun. Most .380 pistols are straight blowback, where 9mm and larger calibers operate with a locked breech and delayed blowback.

While .40 has tremendous inherent accuracy, you will be able to practice a lot more with a 9mm and so hopefully become a much better shot. Cost is about 25% higher for .40 than 9mm from the same manufacturer. Recoil is a bit less in 9mm.

I'm sure there will be other opinions, but having launched everything from sewing needles to artillery, if all I had was one gun, it would be a 9mm. Happily I have more than one, and they range from .17 to 1.00 -- but 9mm, .22 and .38 get used, in that order. The rest are novelties.
 
I totally agree with Gunzik. I really enjoy shooting the Glock 19 and I shoot it as well or better than my highly customized CZ 85 combat. It has become my favorite Glock.
 
silverfoxdj said:
For competition in the future I'd pick a CZ SP-01 Shadow in 9mm it's as good as it gets out of the box and accurate
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This. Ammo is expensive compared to the gun. If your concerned at all about the price of guns, shoot a 9mm or .22. A good CZ Shadow is hard to beat and easy to get parts and service for in Canada.
 
gunzik's post pretty much nailed it. I will add that the smaller/lighter the handgun, the harder it is to shoot well, and the less useful it is for competition. And the shorter the barrel the smaller the sight radius; again, harder to shoot well, and with enhanced muzzle flip and blast.

You won't see a competitive shooter using a compact model handgun. It's like entering a race and tying bricks to your ankles. And to learn to shoot with, it can be done, but it makes it harder to learn the fundamentals.
 
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