Canada post and gun powder.... live rounds....

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I understood you cannot send gun powder in the mail.... apparently I was wrong, only black powder is listed. I was told this as I received a shipment of Varget from a business on here and was pointed to the law and its read. They are right, I inquired at a post office they said even loaded ammo is o.k. as long as it is not with the gun... So they will accept a box of 22-250 fed blue box there properly packaged. I have received multiple cans of Varget over the past few years... Far from where I live now but interesting take on the policy.... anyone know why gun powder is not listed, only black powder?
That was the difference and or distinction made to me by them.. and no please don't ruin this conversation on the black powder is gun powder argument... for this thread they are black powder, blows a tree stump out of the ground with the flick of a cigerette and gun powder takes a torch to make anything exciting on a plate to happen...

Black powder is a low grade explosive, modern powder in a loose form is a flammable substance

 

[Ridersfan]

A couple of years back, I asked about this and was shown a list that specified bullets as well as ammunition. So they made the distinction that bullets alone are verboten, although everyone mails bullets.

When I buy bullets, I buy 250 grain bullets 2500 at a time. That's around 100 pounds. CP is an expensive choice to send anything that heavy. They usually ship UPS/Puro/Canpar

 

[BattleRife]

Canada Post does not transport "dangerous goods". However, Canada Post will transport listed dangerous goods under the Limited Quantity exemption for business customers only. I mail dozens of packages a month containing stuff that retail customers are prohibited from shipping.

Canada Post does not decide if something is "dangerous goods". Dangerous Goods are listed by international convention, with groups like Transport Canada, US Dept. of Transportation, EU Road Directive, and the International Air Transport Association all having a say. These conventions also decide what is a limited or excepted quantity.

Smokeless powder is a listed dangerous good (class 1.3C, UN0161), as is loaded ammunition (numerous listings depending on bullet and primer type, I think class 1.4S, UN0012 is the one most commonly applied for our purposes). However both of these have a 25kg limited quantity exemption for certain transport vehicles, and cartridges specifically are allowed for transport under Special Provision 125:

Regulation Description:

These dangerous goods may be handled, offered for transport or transported in accordance with subsections 1.17 (2) to (4) of Part 1 (Coming into Force, Repeal, Interpretation, General Provisions and Special Cases) on a road vehicle, a railway vehicle or a vessel on a domestic voyage if
SOR/2017-253

(a)the dangerous goods are classified and authorized in accordance with the ""Explosives Regulations, 2013"";

(b) the dangerous goods are contained in inner means of containment that are placed in a strong outer means of containment designed, constructed, filled, closed, secured and maintained so that under normal conditions of transport, including handling, there will be no accidental release of the dangerous goods that could endanger public safety;

(c)each inner means of containment has a gross mass less than or equal to 5 kg;

(d)the outer means of containment has a gross mass less than or equal to 30 kg; and

(e)the outermeans of containment, as presented for transport, is capable of passing a test in accordance with Test Series 6(d) of Part I of the Manual of Tests and Criteria.

SOR/2014-306

Applicable UN Numbers:

UN0012, UN0014, UN0055

 

[nowarningshot]

A couple of years back, I asked about this and was shown a list that specified bullets as well as ammunition. So they made the distinction that bullets alone are verboten, although everyone mails bullets.

Non CGN gun owners, fudds, box a year road hunters, hollyweird script writers, Kanadian gun auctions.

Not a complete list of people and business's that get firearms terms wrong. Clip/magazine, bullets/cartridges/pieces/ammo, semi auto sporting rifle/assault rifle.

Why would CP be different in being wrong and interchangeable?

 

[scout]

Non CGN gun owners, fudds, box a year road hunters, hollyweird script writers, Kanadian gun auctions.

Not a complete list of people and business's that get firearms terms wrong. Clip/magazine, bullets/cartridges/pieces/ammo, semi auto sporting rifle/assault rifle.

Why would CP be different in being wrong and interchangeable?

You forgot about the semi-automatic revolver. Cheers!

 

[SUSSEX]

O.K. to sum up you all have no idea and my post office has a blatant disregard for policy.... not law. Anyone ever been charged???

 

[SUSSEX]

Interesting

 

[SUSSEX]

double post

 

[Kratos]

O.K. to sum up you all have no idea and my post office has a blatant disregard for policy.... not law. Anyone ever been charged???

You came in here swinging and lost, everyone here told you the rules and you decided to believe the post office. Someone even explained to you how a business has a different set of shipping rules from a regular customer. You disregarded everything you were told by people who know what they are talking about and refused to believe them. You then talked yourself out of the thread at the end.

seems to be a well kept secret amongst a privileged group... Glad to be part of it and thanks to everyone who trades below the facebook, facejoke crap..lol

k moving to restricted forum...

 

[Bigbubba]

A few years ago, taking a TDG course, a guy in the class was there by court order as part of his sentence.

He was a cabinet maker and shipped someone a small can of oil based stain. Which is flammable.

Container leaked. He went to court. Thus, in the class, plus a fine.

You are Welcome do whatever you want. But be ready for unpleasant experience.

 

[Wiskey1]

i have seen a lot of ammo sent through the post office,no,you're not supposed to,but it's done,and done often,well packaged,overkill style is usually the nest way to ensure no issues,some people put a different return adress,but in the end,if you can send it properly,it's probably best to go that way,funny they mention trigger locks and locked case for shipping firearms,i've receive a lot of firearm in the mail,NONE where ever trigger locked,and no special case,and that's from dealers,

 

[Kratos]

i have seen a lot of ammo sent through the post office,no,you're not supposed to,but it's done,and done often,well packaged,overkill style is usually the nest way to ensure no issues,some people put a different return adress,but in the end,if you can send it properly,it's probably best to go that way,funny they mention trigger locks and locked case for shipping firearms,i've receive a lot of firearm in the mail,NONE where ever trigger locked,and no special case,and that's from dealers,

Well the ammo part is illegal. And for businesses they have different rules with shipping, they don’t have as many requimemts as us. Also, if you read the rules carefully you don’t need a trigger lock or case either, those are just the most common options for each stipulation.

 

[BillD]

FWIW, a few times now I've had vendors ship powders/primers via CP in the past - usually when I've ordered other stuff too and they've just bunched in all in the same box. Maxing out an order to qualify for free shipping has untold consequences at times I guess

 

[OkayShooter]

why did I recive powder in the mail and why.... read the op

Because the business Effed up. Just because they did it. Doesn't make it right. MANY dealers. State,do not select Canada post if you are purchasing ammo/primers/powder.

Most post office I goto have a list of what cannot be mailed and ammunition is there. Canada post says you cannot ship it.

https://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/PGnonmail-e.asp#1378311

O.K. to sum up you all have no idea and my post office has a blatant disregard for policy.... not law. Anyone ever been charged???

We do, and you're wrong.

I mailed cookies do dad. Screen prompted up, any dangerous goods?