canada post letter

ben hunchak said:
That's funny, I mail cast bullets all over Canada and beyond, to my friends, and have never had a problem with CP in this regard. The businesses that i deal with in the USA will not ship any bullets to Canada(individuals), but this is a US export problem,[emphasis mine-S.] not Can. Cus. or CP.
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We are prob. entering a hornets nest here, but if Ben is correct (and from what I've read in the "sticky" on importing/exporting, he is; no amount of bullets or brass can be exported from the US w/o a permit, irrespective of Canadian regs.) that would suggest that the companies whose products have been successfully received by CGN'ers as per this thread, could be in very deep doo-doo with the US authorities if they do not have export permits and their transgression is discovered. Hopefully, if this is challenged - as it ought to be if CP is in error - it will not filter down to the US side. As far as I know, the only US company that seems to be authorized to send bullets up here - according to their website, anyway - is Hawk Bullets.

It's all utterly ridiculous of course, but that's never stopped bureaucrats before.

:) Stuart
 
"...order my reloading components from the US...guy that I bought them off..." The seller is violating U.S. law. Components require the U.S. export permit. Equipment(dies, etc.) does not.
Canada Post is wrong, but our Civil Service(Customs) is being allowed to make things up as they go along. They think tracers are illegal too.
 
Canada Post my @ss.

This was done by the Agent for Canadian Border Services that work in the Canada Post mail sortation plant.

At major ports of entry into Canada, for mail, (one that shall be used is "Gateway" BMF Mississauga.) Canadian Border Services have an office and staff that work with incoming mail into Canada

Mail comes in direct from the U.S. by truck (sealed cargo) and air.
"Trucked in mail" is not inspected @ Canadian Border crossings, it goes directly to Canada Post for sortation.

They do the inspections and some of them are random at times.
Letter mail is not inspected.
Large bulky envelopes, small packages (A/O's) and parcels are.
At Christmas they get overwhelmed and many just slip on buy (random inspection)

Canada Border Services within Canada Post answer to nobody but themselves. They do there own thing un-molested.

The letter that was received is a pile of CRAP! , wrong interpretation of Canada Post Regulations.
"On behalf of Canada Post"
It is from Canadian Border Services, "NOT" Canada Post!!!!!
They are using Canada Post as a Scapegoat.

Canada post Regulations refer to live munitions and explosives.

Challenge this; the package will not be disposed of immediately. If they say it has, they are full of it.

It has to be transferred to a disposal company at the end of a long road of paper work.

Do you guys think a Canada Post Clerk even sees this stuff, not a chance in HELL.

It is all done in a separate area within the Canada Post Sortation Plant.

Once the packages are checked and everything A-OK, it is then released for delivery.
 
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What you have here are people who don't know what they are dealing with.

I went throught a similar situation, ordering bullets through the mail, from within Canada.

You will need to call them and explain to them what is actually in the box.

They don't know the difference between a cartidge, bullet, primer, powder etc.

Canada post may require you or the sender to provide an information sheet describing your item.

Even when all is said and done and they release them to you, they will still not truly understand what a bullet is.

I got a call from an agent saying, "your ammunition which are not bullets are ready for pickup, or would you like us to mail them to you...."

I replied, " Just mail them please".

They arrived two days later, after being detained for a month.
 
sunray said:
"...order my reloading components from the US...guy that I bought them off..." The seller is violating U.S. law. Components require the U.S. export permit. Equipment(dies, etc.) does not...
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Of course, it is possible that the seller is registered as an exporter with the US Dept of State, like we are. In that case, they could be exported under an exemption if the value is $100 USD wholesale or less, without even getting an export license. However, CanadaPost/CBSA seems to have mixed this one up. x1 on following up on this.
 
DavesSports.com said:
... In that case, they could be exported under an exemption if the value is $100 USD wholesale or less, without even getting an export license.....
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Thanks for this info. It helps clarify a very confusing issue. (I didn't know the exemption was calculated on the wholesale value.)

I must drop in again en route to Belligham some day soon.

:) Stuart
 
josquin said:
...(I didn't know the exemption was calculated on the wholesale value.)...
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Yes - but since most retailers (ie Brownell's) don't disclose to you exactly how much their wholesale cost is, they go by retail. Also, I suppose it could be debatable at Customs what exactly 'wholesale' means, and to whom, if the receipt in the box says $132.50. But, technically it does say wholesale.

See ITAR: 22 CFR 123.17(a) for the actual exemption:

"(a) ...Port Directors of U.S. Customs and Border Protection shall permit the export without a license of components and parts for Category 1(a) firearms, except barrels, cylinders, receivers (frames) or complete breech mechanisms when the total value does not exceed $100 wholesale in any transaction."​

CanAm said:
Excellent diner next door for lunch, too.
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Haha, yes, the Fairway Cafe, a great value.
 
I'm sure this is a case of the CBSA person not being familiar with a bullet vs a full cartridge. Since I got into shooting I've been getting some gun parts and accessories out of the US from both online dealers as well as Ebay. The border delivery service I use is located at a rather out of the way small crossing so I've had a chance to get to know and be known by the border officers. Between the paintball stuff and now guns we've had some interesting chats (good ones :D) I was shocked at the fact that there's a goodly share of them that only shoot their guns enough to qualify and other than that they know NOTHING about firearms, ammo or anything related to this stuff. One of them asked me what a revolver looks like when faced with the wood grips I was bringing in!

So I have no doubt at all that when they saw raw bullets that they immediately thought "live ammo". So yeah, I'd call them up and see if you can get this reversed.
 
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