Drop the mag for a new one, if problem persists, drop the mag and manually cycle it half a dozen times. Most AR cycle malfunctions are cause by lack of lube. It was afterall designed to run wet. (this gun could possibly have some sand in its vag). As far as hitting the durka durka, quit holding the gun like a mall ninja and support your right elbow with the left hand, and quit slapping that trigger!
Canadian Infantry firefight video showing many malfunctions of the C7
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WeatherdoG
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Well Let's be honest, handguard on the sand ain't having an impact on the accuracy of the weapon. Looks like an example of either a dry intrusion in the chamber, or a bad mag. I've had both as a problem... Nothing a bit of lube and a new mag can't fix. The C7 is a fine piece of kit if treated well, as a professional should.
Gunnerlove
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Resting the hand guard causes huge POI shift.
Give it a try.
Give it a try.
The 60mm came back as IOR for Afghan.
The 81's werent "retained" at the guns, rather taken from Infantry mortar platoons mostly. Arty had some, but most came across when the Cbt Sp Coys got raped for mortars, as well as other platoons. I'd advocate for the CASW in addition to, rather than a replacement for the 60mm. The casw cant replace the near verticle attack angle (not that I've seen anyways) and that is the exact reason the 60mm kills so many dudes, is that it goes directly behind their cover or into their hole. Casw would seem to lean more towards a DF role, when its an IDF that is required to bridge the gap between M203's and 155s.
I'd rather spend the money on a JDAM than expose a soldier to en fire. Ammo is cheap, lives are expensive. Besides that, anything worth shooting once is worth shooting twice, so bump it on up to $.48
The 81's werent "retained" at the guns, rather taken from Infantry mortar platoons mostly. Arty had some, but most came across when the Cbt Sp Coys got raped for mortars, as well as other platoons. I'd advocate for the CASW in addition to, rather than a replacement for the 60mm. The casw cant replace the near verticle attack angle (not that I've seen anyways) and that is the exact reason the 60mm kills so many dudes, is that it goes directly behind their cover or into their hole. Casw would seem to lean more towards a DF role, when its an IDF that is required to bridge the gap between M203's and 155s.
I'd rather spend the money on a JDAM than expose a soldier to en fire. Ammo is cheap, lives are expensive. Besides that, anything worth shooting once is worth shooting twice, so bump it on up to $.48
Matt_dal123
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My company in the British army had a support company which included a mortar platoon. The 81mm or we used to call it "fire dragon" as that's what the TB would call it via the radios, is normally formed Into a mechanised role. Basically this mortar is rarely jumped around by the 2-3 man fire team. Instead it's placed on a AFV432 or warrior and dumped at a location to provide fire missions to the other platoons. Our fire teams were like lighting if we called for it. Artillery would not specifically use this mortar. They are to busy making brews or watching American idol Back at the FOB to use them. They work with 105mm and up. However they also can have there own designated platoon for this mortar.
I had the pleasure of working with CF in afghan, and they were actually assisting the 105mm gun teams at a over watch loc in musaqula . Great blokes and had a great tour with them. They loved the 105mm light gun. Not sure what you guys are packing in the quick mobility artillery side of things??
There are weapons dets in the platoons, the book says they have the 60, but whatever works at the time happens, and used to be mortar pls in each combat support company with 81s, they're gone now.
Our arty also uses the 81's similar to yours does.
The reserves use C3s and LG1's and the 81mms.
The regular force uses the m777, 81mm and maybe something else I'm not sure.
they used to have m109's for the whole fire/maneuver shin-dig, but they are gone.
Watch that video and think what a piss poor way to deal with one rag head in a fox hole.
Grizz
Grizz,
I don't mean any offence, but there are a few points in your post I need to rebutt.
First and foremost, the idea that direct fire will lose a firefight while indirect fire will win is absurd. Returning fire is an immediate action, and if you can see the TB, you can win right there. On the other hand, IDF is deliberate, and while it's effective, it's slow. Even with designated air or fire support assets, from the time you call for fires to the time you get your effects is at least 5 minutes. Much more if you don't have a FOO/FAC and need to send the 9-line yourself. During that delay you can achieve better results with several pproperly placed rounds of 5.56, or 7.62.
You said "no wonder we lost" and then theorized that a 2" or 60mm mortar could do a better job by dropping a bomb in the "raghead's foxhole" or making him run for it. That statement is contradictory. If the enemy "runs for it" you haven't won a damn thing, you've just wasted your time & ammo. At least your mortar team will be happy that they have less bombs to carry around. You also seem to seriously over-estimate the accuracy of the mortar. Computer games and movies portray mortars as instantly deployable, and capable of pinpoint accuracy. In fact, a mortar team trains to set up and have rounds down range in 2 minutes or less. The first 2 rounds are basically throw-aways, used to bed in the base-plate, you adjust on to the target, drop a bomb, and wait 30-60 seconds (depending on the distance to tgt) for the splash. You then adjust and repeat. Once you are on tgt, you fire for effect. At a range of just a kilometre, your rounds will be in the air for more than 40 seconds, and it's not at all uncommon for them to be dispersed over a 200m circle.
For typical engagement distances in Afghanistan, the 60mm mortar is not required, as the M203 is easier, faster, and more accurate. It's true that you don't get the benefit of the verticle attack angle, but it's a satisfactory compromise.
Finally you have to look at the practicality of hauling around a crew served weapon system. If I told my team of 12 guys that I thought we should bring a 60lb metal tube on patrol, and that all of us should carry 4 bombs (another 40lbs), I would probably find my mags loaded with spent casings. Even during the "fun months" of May to August, when a fight is pretty much guaranteed, it's not worth it. Mobility is key, and a mortar is stationary.
Now that I've gone off on an anti-mortar rant, I will say that I still love the 60mm, and it does have a role. It is great for any operation big enough to set up a firebase. 2 or 3 60mm teams in the weapons det can do a great job. But when it comes down to it, if I had to choose between a dozen 60mm teams on the ground, or 2 F35s with JDAMs at 20,000' AGL, I'll take the jets. Every day.
Cheers.
Tim
