Canadian LEGAL 223 Remington, thirty round capacity mags

Don't give them any ideas Bob... :)

Isn't that what they did in Australia? Single shots or bolt actions only?

Mag laws don't affect criminals - I doubt anyone bent on killing is concerned that the mags they use are 'pinned' and 'legal'. It's feel-good legislation.
 
acrashb said:
Not for me - and not for a lot of people. Unlimited would be OK.
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Yeah, but living in the real world I'm assuming this decision would be made by a bureaucrat. If it ever becomes a political issue who knows what would happen.

Ten rounds for everything would be better, the losers would be people with large cap mags for their .22 rifles, people with the pre-46 belt-feds (which could still be exempt anyway) and rare people with odd stuff, like bolt-actions with large mags. I actually do have large cap .22 mags and also bolt-action rifle mags that hold more than ten.

However I think I'd prefer unrestricted shotgun tubes (not many hold more than ten) and ten-round mags for semi-auto rifles.

But the main advantage to be honest is that I could actually understand the damn law. This "designed for" whatever it is nonsense just blows my mind.

Is it a pistol? Is it a centrefire semi-auto? Is it a garden rake?

I don't envy the RCMP forensics lab their job.
 
But it was written by a bureaucrat, it's a regulation, so it's secondary legislation, not an Act. Obviously a minister has to agree to a change in the regulation, but any change will be written by a bureaucrat.
 
canucklehead said:
Don't give them any ideas Bob... :)

Isn't that what they did in Australia? Single shots or bolt actions only?

Mag laws don't affect criminals - I doubt anyone bent on killing is concerned that the mags they use are 'pinned' and 'legal'. It's feel-good legislation.
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Aus. essentially got rid of semi-autos. Levers, pumps, bolts, are OK aiui. But those single-shots, did you know that because the receivers are stiffer they're more accurate? No honest man needs a gun that accurate...
 
mudgunner49 said:
No you wouldn't - the rifle would still be a semi-automatic center-fire and would therefore be restricted to 5 rds... or 10... or whatever some politician decides...


blake
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Rifle are NOT restricted in their magazine capacity, it is the magazine itself that is or is not restricted and that is based on the specific legislation which classifies the magazine and it's legal capacity based on what firearm the magazine was originally "DESIGNED AND MANUFACTURED TO BE USED IN".

Based on what the manufacturer designed and made the magazine to be used in our regulations either limit it's capacity to 5 rounds, 10 rounds or unlimited. That limit does not change no matter what firearm you actually use the magazine in.

Mark
 
You know I think that if Mark was able to get paid for the number of times he has had to clarify the rules regarding magazine limits and answer stupid posts with no thought or research put into them regarding magazines in general he would already be retired to a tropical island.

Mark, I am amazed you even bother any more, or that you haven't come up with a justifiably curt form reply yet. Spiced with some good words of Anglo-Saxon origin to boot!

Having done an incredible amount of good for lovers of black rifles by getting us legal 10 round magazines (at a very reasonable price to us, the potential customers IMHO) it seems like a very cruel and unusual punishment to still have to spend time here each day explaining exactly how someone has no idea what they are talking about. Kind of like pushing crap uphill with a sharp stick...a visual image I will kick up a notch by throwing in the useful phrase 'verbal diarrhea' and substituting a sewing needle for the pointy stick.

With the unholy union of the Tavor arriving in country and the recent availability of the RRA LAR-15 5.56 mags through Mark's efforts I think we can safely say that Black Gun Lovers have it better than now they have had in many, many years.

Please, for the love of God use the search function before exposing your ignorance to the world. I would rather see Mark slaving away to bring in more and better toys for those with the cash to burn than explaining the way things are for the kajillionth time.
 
I think the largest pool of confusion with these magazine capacity laws is from hunters who have assumed that hunting regulations are one and the same as the firearm laws.
 
Moosefondler said:
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Please, for the love of God use the search function before exposing your ignorance to the world. I would rather see Mark slaving away to bring in more and better toys for those with the cash to burn than explaining the way things are for the kajillionth time.
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A brilliant reply sir!!! :agree:
 
cancer said:
I think the largest pool of confusion with these magazine capacity laws is from hunters who have assumed that hunting regulations are one and the same as the firearm laws.
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I don't think so, it is a hard law to understand. The fact that people are still confused about it more than a decade after it was written proves it.

If they just jacked the mag limit capacity to ten rounds for centrefire semi-autos and full-autos that would at least produce some consistency in the law and mean that a lot of the exemptions could be ditched.

The one that gets me is this "commonly available" crap which is the breakpoint between the five and ten round capacities for pistols. How the hell are you supposed to know by reading the regulation what the RCMP has determined as "commonly available" in Canada?
 
cybershooters said:
I don't envy the RCMP forensics lab their job.
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I think like most union jobs they will simply do what it takes to justify their continued employment regardless of how silly it is. :rolleyes:
 
cybershooters said:
I don't think so, it is a hard law to understand. The fact that people are still confused about it more than a decade after it was written proves it.

If they just jacked the mag limit capacity to ten rounds for centrefire semi-autos and full-autos that would at least produce some consistency in the law and mean that a lot of the exemptions could be ditched.

The one that gets me is this "commonly available" crap which is the breakpoint between the five and ten round capacities for pistols. How the hell are you supposed to know by reading the regulation what the RCMP has determined as "commonly available" in Canada?
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If that's true then how can you explain the perpetual belief that all centrefire rifles (regardless of action) are only allowed 5 shots?
 
Is it a perpetual belief? Haven't encountered it here in Alberta.

Let's just say there are reasons why people are confused by the law. Ontario hunting laws are one reason, but on its own merits it is very confusing.
 
Hope I didn't come off too #####y there, that time of the month...or something. The imminent prospect of buying a Tavor is making my nipples sensitive enough to confuse the issue (they are like a pair of hairy 750 grain .50 BMG Hornady A-Maxes right now...try and scrub THAT little image out of your mind!)

Apologies if feelings were hurt/lives ruined/erectile disfunction caused by the harshness of my comment, but seriously...search, read results, then post. Search, read results, then post. If anything can be left out of the process it is the posting bit. Most often the cleverest thing to say is nothing at all, especially when you have no idea what you are talking about.

Questar has already had to close from the 21st until the end of each month just to get their actual work done without interruption. I take the time Mark spends defending his honour and trying to conquer ignorance seriously as I have just gone out and got a weekend job specifically to pay for more firearms and accessories. He is the man with the contacts to get many of my future toys into the the True North Strong and Free. He obviously isn't spending all his online time cruising for #### as he posts here like a machine to try and educate as well as keep abreast (badoom tsh!) of the firearms enthusiast community. I have picked him out in particular, but frankly I see a hell of a lot of input from dealers here on Gunnutz that really doesn't further their income much but does provide members here with very useful knowledge. Gentlemen, I salute you all for your genuine passion for firearms, and for braving the self-professed experts and geniuses from 'teh interweb' to hand it out to genuinely interested Gunnutz.

To all who who would stand in the way of truth and justice I say this:
"Thou shalt not ####-block my source for Glocks with random ramblings of relentless retardness, for if thou does, then one night, stumbling home thoust shall see a shadow...and from that shadow will come such a #####slap that thy descendants shall be bruised unto the seventh generation." :slap:

So sayeth the Fondler.
 
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