Canadian Made 1911

I have shot a nice Norinco 1911 - Of course the owner had put more than the original cost of the pistol into aftermarket parts, and it ran pretty well.

So I bought one - I mean hey, for the price?

But.... a $400 paper weight is still a paper weight.

In my personal experience, (and I have now tried three Norinco firearms), they are all CRAP.

Spend a little more - It is worth it.

(My humble opinion, for what it is worth)

Neal
 
ian_in_vic said:
Dude, did you ever experience a Lada - a Norc from Gunnar is miles better as a handgun than any Lada was as a car. Frankly I wouldn't trade my Armco Norc for a Para without a bunch of cash. :D Dlasks, in my experience, are great pistols and you get exactly what you want.
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they can also upgrade a norc to what ever you want.
 
Despite my affection for my Norc (which actually only has about $200 into it), if I was in your position today, the STI Spartan would be my choice. I certainly wouldn't feel poorly equipped with one, nor would I expect most guns costing twice as much to shoot much better than it. When you're looking for extreme accuracy, you pay extreme prices. I'd still buy from Gunnar though, he puts a lovely trigger job on the pistols he sells.
 
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Doc G. said:
A friend of mine told me that there is a Canadian firearms manufacturer that produces quality 1911's and I'll be damned if I can remember the name. Does anyone know the company? Just how good are its 1911's? Also price ranges would be good to know, as I have my sights set on a stainless 1911 as my first pistol. Thanks for the help!
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Probably Dlask. I'll take a guess that you are new at least to 1911's and I would suggest you buy a good lower or medium priced one to start or possibly used through the EE here unless you are sure about wanting & being able to afford the best right away. It can also help with resale to a wider audience when you decide to step up to something expensive (as you probably will). Norinco is good for the money as are Springfield, Para and STI. Armco often has good used 1911's for sale that have been thoroughly gone over by owner Gunnar.
 
Appreciate everyone's advice. I have been around firearms my entire life but yes I am new to pistols in general, BC. I am of course going to continue to research thoroughly before I decide on what to buy, but thanks again for everyone's help.

I gotta say that watching 1000 rds go through that Para 1911 was pretty sweet. But if that slide 'preening/chipping' is seen by Para as SOP, well that does not inspire a great deal of confidence.
 
KiwiMatt said:
I would'nt say that they are all poor quality guns. Some, such as the Todd Jarrett models, are excellent. Others suffer from various issues...don't write them off completely without doing a little research around here about the different models.



Here ya go...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFF0TbhgQMY
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Thats cool! I also watched part one, that was a stock gun. I just love watching Todd Jarrett shoot!!
I was also at a Para demo day at the Connaught firing range (they were sponsering a big competition). Well over a 1000 rds through one their 1911 models and even more of Nato 9mm through the Tac-Five. Very nice guns, our boys and girls in green loved them and were ordering them like crazy!!
 
Austen said:
Thats cool! I also watched part one, that was a stock gun. I just love watching Todd Jarrett shoot!!
I was also at a Para demo day at the Connaught firing range (they were sponsering a big competition). Well over a 1000 rds through one their 1911 models and even more of Nato 9mm through the Tac-Five. Very nice guns, our boys and girls in green loved them and were ordering them like crazy!!
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I'd love to shoot 1000's of rounds through a gun and not have to be concerned about the cost of ammo or the wear and tear that the gun would see. Like I said I have no issues with the reliability or accuracy of my Para but I question its durability and materials. It'd be nice if Para showed some close ups of the guns used in the demo's. And I'd like to see what the boys and girls in green would be thinking once their slides peening after 200 rounds. :p
 
I used to shoot Para , had a P16-40 limited , gun worked great , had no feed problems etc, only time it malfunctioned was when it broke , had to replace extractor and ejector (broken , but normal 1911 problems) and the slide cracked which was replaced no charge by Para .This was an IPSC gun so It was being used a fair amount and not just a once a month plinker, I sold the gun to a friend (and he is still a friend) who uses it in IPSC as well (just not as often) I now shoot a STi Edge in standard , more money but way more gun.
 
misfire said:
I'd love to shoot 1000's of rounds through a gun and not have to be concerned about the cost of ammo or the wear and tear that the gun would see. Like I said I have no issues with the reliability or accuracy of my Para but I question its durability and materials. It'd be nice if Para showed some close ups of the guns used in the demo's. And I'd like to see what the boys and girls in green would be thinking once their slides peening after 200 rounds. :p
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Well...I was there, I was actually a guest of the Para rep. I sure loaded a lot of mags that day!! When they were packed up at the end of the day there wasn't any peening.
 
Buy a Glock.

Lots of guys buy the Chi-com reverse engineered not-really-a-1911 gun and then dump the parts and have it so-called tuned for big bucks.
If they dump all the parts because they think they are junk [they are] isn't the frame and slide just leftover junk too?
Glocks can hold their own against the finest pistols made, and do so much more cost-efficiently than most any other shooting platform.
For the new shooter in particular, choosing a Glock makes a great deal of sense. Replacing triggers, barrels, extractors, ejectors etc becomes easy and thanks to Glock's modular construction, replacing these parts does not require any careful tuning or fitting such as required by other designs.
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hatman1793 said:
Lots of guys buy the Chi-com reverse engineered not-really-a-1911 gun and then dump the parts and have it so-called tuned for big bucks.
If they dump all the parts because they think they are junk [they are] isn't the frame and slide just leftover junk too?
Glocks can hold their own against the finest pistols made, and do so much more cost-efficiently than most any other shooting platform.
For the new shooter in particular, choosing a Glock makes a great deal of sense. Replacing triggers, barrels, extractors, ejectors etc becomes easy and thanks to Glock's modular construction, replacing these parts does not require any careful tuning or fitting such as required by other designs.
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OK, I'll bite. There is no standing patent on the 1911, hence no need to reverse engineer. If you had taken apart a Norc, you would know they are in fact, a real, dimensionally correct, 1911 manufactured from 5100 series steel. Most people who 'dump all the parts' are doing so because they have bought advertising hype, or want a different look, I can tell you from experience they do not need to be replaced. As far as Glocks go, they are very good pistols, unless the grip size and/or trigger reach are too big for the shooter, then they become an obstacle to good shooting. Finally, Glock did not invent ANYTHING, much less parts interchangeability in pistols. Glocks are simply a combination of features found elsewhere first, they are not nor have they ever been "revolutionary".
 
Hey Doc G.!

I own a SS Dlask (it is my avatar picture).

BUT, taking into account your price range (500-850) I would, hands down, suggest an STI Spartan. Look up the review of this gun on line at the "Guns & Ammo" site. I have researched this market segment extensively and this is my conclusion. It is what I would buy in that price range. The Spartan runs a CDN MSRP of low $700s.

Educate yourself (if you haven't already done so) on the use of forged, cast and MIM parts by gun makers. Then compare.

Best friend had a brand new Para SSP and within the first 350 rounds his extractor was pounded back into a mushroom and his slide was peening where the stop contacts it. The almost spray-on paint-like finish was also not holding up too well. It also had a plastic Mainspring Housing. With taxes, he paid almost $1200 for it. He sold it shortly thereafter at a substantial loss.

By the way - there is a high demand for Spartans (good sign) and some Canadian dealers have significant waiting lists.

Good luck and let us know what you decide to do.
 
Hey Thor,

Yeah A few days ago I saw the Spartan's, came to the conclusion that it may be the gun for me. Of course I will continue to look around as it is gunna be awhile now before I can afford it (car blew up)...

Wanna thank everyone again for their opinions, been a great help!
 
Hi, I'm a new member and I don't know exactly how it is working but I'm looking for any 1911 single stack to buy, (except norinco).
 
Read up on a Dark 40 Built by Rodger Kotanko of Dark International. He's based in Ontario and can build you a double stack 1911 fully loaded and IPSC ready for the price of a new stock para. and the steel is 3 times stronger than anything on the North American market.

Check out the Dark 40 1911 Thread further down the list on this page.

Thanks.
 
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