Canadian made P-14???

[bdft]

A friend of mine swears that some P-14s were made in Canada. Can't remember the name of the factory. Anyone ever heard of this? They would be rare if they were.

 

[Pblatzz]

Perhaps repaired, but not made in Canada. They were made by remington, winchester and eddystone...

 

[cantom]

A friend of mine swears that some P-14s were made in Canada. Can't remember the name of the factory. Anyone ever heard of this? They would be rare if they were.

There were some with C Broad Arrow markings, but not made here.

 

[longbranch*]

P14's

And any C-broad arrow marked P14's were in fact wearing M1917 stocks that as we know were sold to Canada between the wars. Not saying they don't exist, but until I see a P14 with Canadian ownership markings on the metal or proper P14 stock, I say we didnt official have them in inventory.
Geoff

 

[nelly]

I believe that the M1917 Enfield was purchased / acquired by RCAF for a while, as a stop gap. My Dad-in-Law also has stories of being issued other Yank firearms in the 1950s, when 3 Wing was over in Germany, too.

But a Canadian made P14? No.

 

[cantom]

I believe that the M1917 Enfield was purchased / acquired by RCAF for a while, as a stop gap. My Dad-in-Law also has stories of being issued other Yank firearms in the 1950s, when 3 Wing was over in Germany, too.

But a Canadian made P14? No.

Weren't they used by prison camp guards etc?

 

[longbranch*]

U.S. Enfield

I believe that the M1917 Enfield was purchased / acquired by RCAF for a while, as a stop gap. My Dad-in-Law also has stories of being issued other Yank firearms in the 1950s, when 3 Wing was over in Germany, too.

But a Canadian made P14? No.

I had a bubb'd M1917 Winchester with Q.O.R (Queens Own Rifles), seen several RCAF marked and others that just had C-broad arrows and the red stripe on forearm. Still never seen evidence of Canadian owned P14's.
Geoff

 

[Gary D]

I also have a bubba'd M1917 with RCAF and C^ markings I'm restoring.

 

[Vimy Ridge]

Orsogna, Italy January 29, 1944. Canadian Soldier, Pte. Jack Bailey (Stratford, Ontairo) of Perth Regt., in hiding, aims towards the town of Orsogna.

http://wwii.ca/media-80.html

 

[oldlithgow]

Eddystone P14

With the groove in the stock he is using a Eddystone manufactured P-14.

Picture of Canadian sniper in Italy using P14.

 

[Mk VII]

Yes - and the old Warner & Swazey prismatic sight (which must have been very old-fashioned and unsatisfactory even then)

 

[lawn gnome]

I've got a P17 with RCAF marks. Probably from the 1940-41 panic when everything we had was shipped to save the UK.

 

[Pblatzz]

I believe that the M1917 Enfield was purchased / acquired by RCAF for a while, as a stop gap. My Dad-in-Law also has stories of being issued other Yank firearms in the 1950s, when 3 Wing was over in Germany, too.

But a Canadian made P14? No.

The p-17 was used as a stop gap rifle, I have seen and owned several with RCAF markings m GGHG, EOTC, and even wit just the C Broad arrow, ETC.

 

[OLD RSM]

Hi Guy's
Canada bought over 100,000 M1917 to arm Canadian Reserve units Training Schools and the RCAF most were marked C^. There was very few P14 in Canada.
Cheers

 

[Calum]

Shame as it is a better rifle then the #4 IMHO.

 

[Gary D]

Indeed a nice rifle but they weigh a ton with a 5 round internal mag and more difficult to clean and maintain. If I was a soldier slogging it through France and Germany I would take a No.4 any day.

 

[nelly]

Shame as it is a better rifle then the #4 IMHO.

A better rifle on the range, yes. The most accurate milsurp I have shot, so far.

Would I take one over a SMLE or No.4 if it was a dirty bi-directional range? No.

 

[Lee Enfield]

A friend of mine swears that some P-14s were made in Canada. Can't remember the name of the factory. Anyone ever heard of this? They would be rare if they were.

If WWI had continued, the plan was to manufacture P-14s at the former Ross Rifle factory.

I very much doubt that they even had the drawings by the end.

 

[longbranch*]

P14's at Ross

If WWI had continued, the plan was to manufacture P-14s at the former Ross Rifle factory.

I very much doubt that they even had the drawings by the end.

According to The Ross Rifle Story, Sir Charles proposed building the P14 at his plant once it was clear that the government was shutting his operation. He had also wanted to make 1911's as well.
Geoff

 

[Calum]

Indeed a nice rifle but they weigh a ton with a 5 round internal mag and more difficult to clean and maintain. If I was a soldier slogging it through France and Germany I would take a No.4 any day.

Personally I find the Pattern 14's internal mag quite easy to clean.
And one does not end up tweaking the feeding lips during cleaning as with the #4 mag.

Shame they didn't get built in Canada, but good the war ended.