Canadian-marked P-14s
- Thread starter RangeRover
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The Brit P14 is not that common in Canada
The P14 was issued in large numbers, along with the U.S Model 1917 rifle to the British Home Guard,Navy and airforce, freeing up the SMLE rifle to the army units on active service.
The US Model 1917 was very common in Canada, as large numbers were purchased from the U.S ,and issued to the RCAF,army training units...
The P14 was issued in large numbers, along with the U.S Model 1917 rifle to the British Home Guard,Navy and airforce, freeing up the SMLE rifle to the army units on active service.
The US Model 1917 was very common in Canada, as large numbers were purchased from the U.S ,and issued to the RCAF,army training units...
- Location
- Tucson, Arizona
Not sure about the P14, but my M1917 is marked to the RCAF
What is your source? This could make for some very interesting research? Were they marked with the C Broad Arrow?
That book was the source which led to my inquiry (and I agree it is a great resource book) and I just wondered if anyone has, or has seen one, in captivity.
John C Denner Co.
#4229- DEFENDING THE DOMINION- CANADIAN MILITARY RIFLES 1855-1955- Edgecombe, David W.- This long awaited book describes the process of acquisition and disposal of Canadian long arms from 1855-1955. Its purpose is to acquaint the reader with the personal long arms issued o the Canadian infantryman from the Fenian Raids to the Post-WWII era. Hard cover. 168 pages. Black and white photos. Pu
2003. Price: $59.95
I just ordered my copy 5 minutes ago.
#4229- DEFENDING THE DOMINION- CANADIAN MILITARY RIFLES 1855-1955- Edgecombe, David W.- This long awaited book describes the process of acquisition and disposal of Canadian long arms from 1855-1955. Its purpose is to acquaint the reader with the personal long arms issued o the Canadian infantryman from the Fenian Raids to the Post-WWII era. Hard cover. 168 pages. Black and white photos. Pu
2003. Price: $59.95 I just ordered my copy 5 minutes ago.
Forty4Forty
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- Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
As there are no pictures of Canadian P14's, so here is a Canadian P17 (US .30 caliber M1917 rifle), just to add at least one photo. The Canadian military painted red stripes on the front with 30.06 so as not to mix them up with the .303.
This web site states :
http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/weapons/rifles.htm
"Canadian troops in Canada and England also trained with the P14 Enfield, with some P17 Enfields also being used in Canada." I wonder if the P14's did not get Canadian marks. I have a P14 bought in Canada, but no marks.
This web site states :
http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/weapons/rifles.htm
"Canadian troops in Canada and England also trained with the P14 Enfield, with some P17 Enfields also being used in Canada." I wonder if the P14's did not get Canadian marks. I have a P14 bought in Canada, but no marks.
As there are no pictures of Canadian P14's, so here is a Canadian P17 (US .30 caliber M1917 rifle), just to add at least one photo. The Canadian military painted red stripes on the front with 30.06 so as not to mix them up with the .303.
This web site states :
http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/weapons/rifles.htm
"Canadian troops in Canada and England also trained with the P14 Enfield, with some P17 Enfields also being used in Canada." I wonder if the P14's did not get Canadian marks. I have a P14 bought in Canada, but no marks.
Interesting my P-17, purchased in Canada has neither a Canadian Broad Arrow nor the red stripes on the forestock and barrel. I wonder if they were imported after World War 2.
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- New Brunswick
I just checked my P-14's but no CDN markings. You see lots of P-14's around here (NB) but seldom a 17. I'm suprized to here that most Canadian ones were 17's. I've been watching for one for a long time. In the RCAF photos of my father's military funeral in '42, I thought the honor guard were shooting P-14's but now it seems they were most likely 17's.
After the P17 rifles with the Canadian markings and red noses came out for sale, It wasn't uncommon to find them at gun shows with the attempts at removing the paint quite obvious. It was actually more common to find them with botched attempts to remove the paint than left as issued. They mostly, either had mismatched bolts or un numbered bolts. and were in VG+ condition, in and out. I have to check my P14 rifles for Canadian markings. I do remember a well known dealer in Montreal, International, breaking up hundreds of them to convert them to magnum sporters. I bought some of the stocks from those rifles. I heard all the furniture was removed when the actions were sent to England for conversion. Most of the furniture went to the US.
- Location
- New Brunswick
Mine are both Eddystone rifles, one bubba & one with a full stock that had been a bubba. It has a DP stock on it and matching numbers but the other one with the cut wood & mismatched numbers is the shooter. I've had several of these over the years & all shot better than any Lee Enfield I have owned.
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- Tucson, Arizona
The P14 was not only issued to the home guard who initaly got M1917's. P14's, after Dunkirk were also issued to the regular forces and there are pics to prove that. North Aftica, Commandos, etc. etc.
Why M1917's to the home guard? Ammunition supply would not be a problem.
Oh by the way the Home Guard was initaly called the LDV (Local Defence Volunteers) until some joker said it really meant Look, Duck, and Vanish!
Why M1917's to the home guard? Ammunition supply would not be a problem.
Oh by the way the Home Guard was initaly called the LDV (Local Defence Volunteers) until some joker said it really meant Look, Duck, and Vanish!
