Canadian Rimfire Precision Series - launching in 2018

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Wanted to announce a new Rimfire Precision Series that is starting up in Canada and dedicated to PRS-style competitions with .22LR rimfire rifles. Matches will be 10-stage, timed format with 1-5 steel targets per stage with distances from 75m to 350m. Similar to NRL22, there will be 2 divisions: Production (rifle under $500 and optics under $500 - no mods to trigger, action, receiver or barrel) and Open. Only .22LR is permitted. The goal is to provide shooters interested in PRS with a gateway into PRS-style competition without having to spend a ton in gear but also provide an opportunity for the experienced PRS shooter with the ability to train under similar conditions with their trainer rifles.

6 events are planned across Canada including matches in BC, AB, Ont and Quebec for 2018. The first match is scheduled on April 29 at CFB Valcartier with more currently being finalized.

Facebook is being used as the primary method of communication. search for the Canadian Rimfire Precision Series group and join for more info.

website is rimfireprecision dot ca

Hope to see you guys on the firing line!

Rick
 
Fantastic news.

The biggest issue I see with production is that the price cap may be too restrictive with optics that have the features a shooter wants AND function properly with reliable tracking AND the adjustment range to reach out as far as the course of fire demands. Not a whole lot in the $500 range that is going to stand up to the rigors of this type of game... and scope failure will be a huge bummer for those who want to join.

My suggestion is the raise to $1200.... and $1499 being ideal. I get that the entire point of the cost cap is to stop the arms race and budget pressures this sport imposes but I just don't see scopes that inexpensive ($500 new) holding up... and I am not a fan of "cheapbay" offshore optics as an option.

Can the stock be replaced or modified? Many rimfires aren't proportioned for adults. Some clarification on the cost for the rifle would be helpful.

YMMV.

Jerry
 
Mystic Precision said:
Fantastic news.

The biggest issue I see with production is that the price cap may be too restrictive with optics that have the features a shooter wants AND function properly with reliable tracking AND the adjustment range to reach out as far as the course of fire demands. Not a whole lot in the $500 range that is going to stand up to the rigors of this type of game... and scope failure will be a huge bummer for those who want to join.

My suggestion is the raise to $1200.... and $1499 being ideal. I get that the entire point of the cost cap is to stop the arms race and budget pressures this sport imposes but I just don't see scopes that inexpensive ($500 new) holding up... and I am not a fan of "cheapbay" offshore optics as an option.

Can the stock be replaced or modified? Many rimfires aren't proportioned for adults. Some clarification on the cost for the rifle would be helpful.

YMMV.

Jerry
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I'm sorry but I have to disagree here.
I like the idea of a limit to include more people, level the playing field and keep it fun.
If you raise the limit that high you remove the ability for many to play.
 
Rickster66 said:
Wanted to announce a new Rimfire Precision Series that is starting up in Canada and dedicated to PRS-style competitions with .22LR rimfire rifles. Matches will be 10-stage, timed format with 1-5 steel targets per stage with distances from 75m to 350m. Similar to NRL22, there will be 2 divisions: Production (rifle under $500 and optics under $500 - no mods to trigger, action, receiver or barrel) and Open. Only .22LR is permitted. The goal is to provide shooters interested in PRS with a gateway into PRS-style competition without having to spend a ton in gear but also provide an opportunity for the experienced PRS shooter with the ability to train under similar conditions with their trainer rifles.

6 events are planned across Canada including matches in BC, AB, Ont and Quebec for 2018. The first match is scheduled on April 29 at CFB Valcartier with more currently being finalized.

Facebook is being used as the primary method of communication. search for the Canadian Rimfire Precision Series group and join for more info.

website is rimfireprecision dot ca

Hope to see you guys on the firing line!

Rick
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Where abouts in Alberta is this match going to take place Rick? We at SAPRL are doing a match in Medicine Hat this year and I'd be interested in coming out to the match
 
Slim78,
I was speaking with Ryan about the schedule and I was able to book Taber, AB for the event this year to not interfere with the SAPRL events. It should be a great venue for the match! I'd love to get out to the MH event but not this year. Hope to see you on the firing line. We're finalizing some event details but we should be able to open registration in a week or two.
Rick
 
Mystic Precision said:
Fantastic news.

The biggest issue I see with production is that the price cap may be too restrictive with optics that have the features a shooter wants AND function properly with reliable tracking AND the adjustment range to reach out as far as the course of fire demands. Not a whole lot in the $500 range that is going to stand up to the rigors of this type of game... and scope failure will be a huge bummer for those who want to join.

My suggestion is the raise to $1200.... and $1499 being ideal. I get that the entire point of the cost cap is to stop the arms race and budget pressures this sport imposes but I just don't see scopes that inexpensive ($500 new) holding up... and I am not a fan of "cheapbay" offshore optics as an option.

Can the stock be replaced or modified? Many rimfires aren't proportioned for adults. Some clarification on the cost for the rifle would be helpful.

YMMV.

Jerry
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Jerry,
I hear your points. Optics is key but for us, we have the Open Division for those with the budget for precision optics. Our goal is to drive more competitive participation in the Production Division to build up the number of shooters who want to get into the sport but don't have the budget to compete against guys running higher end rifles/optics. We want adults and youth joining the competitive ranks to see what its about and then get them to try out different options and maybe move up to Open Division when finances improve or once they decide to save up for it. Our belief is that the first focus in Production Division should be on fundamentals and marksmanship and to let that be the deciding factor initially.
We may change our minds later but for now we'll see where it goes for 2018. Appreciate the input and hope to see you out at the BC event!

Regards,
Rick
 
Rickster66 said:
Slim78,
I was speaking with Ryan about the schedule and I was able to book Taber, AB for the event this year to not interfere with the SAPRL events. It should be a great venue for the match! I'd love to get out to the MH event but not this year. Hope to see you on the firing line. We're finalizing some event details but we should be able to open registration in a week or two.
Rick
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Sounds great I look forward to shooting the match.
 
Newbies into the game.....other shooting disciplines in Canada have been struggling with this concept for decades. Surprise, surprise! :cool:

Rickster67: thanks for taking on this very large project as a Match Director!!

Cheers, Barney :wave:
 
Rickster66 said:
Jerry,
I hear your points. Optics is key but for us, we have the Open Division for those with the budget for precision optics. Our goal is to drive more competitive participation in the Production Division to build up the number of shooters who want to get into the sport but don't have the budget to compete against guys running higher end rifles/optics. We want adults and youth joining the competitive ranks to see what its about and then get them to try out different options and maybe move up to Open Division when finances improve or once they decide to save up for it. Our belief is that the first focus in Production Division should be on fundamentals and marksmanship and to let that be the deciding factor initially.
We may change our minds later but for now we'll see where it goes for 2018. Appreciate the input and hope to see you out at the BC event!

Regards,
Rick
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If the course of fire can reach out to 350yds/m, how much elevation is needed?

If you are asking a shooter to engage targets over a wide range of distances, they must adjust their scope and/or use their reticle to account for the drop. I really don't think Kentucky with a rimfire is going to be too effective.

I will also throw this on the fire, the scope will likely need to be FFP to keep up with the ideology of PRS games.

So playing Devil's Advocate, can you indicate scopes that would have sufficient features to complete these tasks AND cost $500?

I can only think of a fixed 10X that might work.... and I dont think it is manf anymore???? [ I found an option but let's see what else is considered]

Note: I am 100% behind the introduction of rimfire PRS type sports and sponsored an event last year... I am a big fan of the production concept as I have always been an advocate that "more for less" can only help build the shooting ranks.... But let's makes sure that no matter the class, there is sufficient gear to allow success.

And again, can a factory barreled action be put into another stock and still be in production?

Love to hear if there are any dates in BC.

Jerry
 
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I've been running an Athlon Talos 4-14 BTR on my .22 trainer, Jerry, it does the trick so far. FFP, good tree optic and enough elevation to get out past 300 with a 20 moa base and using the reticle. I think they retail around $500 or so+tax?
 
Mystic Precision said:
If the course of fire can reach out to 350yds/m, how much elevation is needed?

If you are asking a shooter to engage targets over a wide range of distances, they must adjust their scope and/or use their reticle to account for the drop. I really don't think Kentucky with a rimfire is going to be too effective.

I will also throw this on the fire, the scope will likely need to be FFP to keep up with the ideology of PRS games.

So playing Devil's Advocate, can you indicate scopes that would have sufficient features to complete these tasks AND cost $500?

I can only think of a fixed 10X that might work.... and I dont think it is manf anymore???? [ I found an option but let's see what else is considered]

Note: I am 100% behind the introduction of rimfire PRS type sports and sponsored an event last year... I am a big fan of the production concept as I have always been an advocate that "more for less" can only help build the shooting ranks.... But let's makes sure that no matter the class, there is sufficient gear to allow success.

And again, can a factory barreled action be put into another stock and still be in production?

Love to hear if there are any dates in BC.

Jerry
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Jerry,
The matches will be extremely challenging at the far ends of the distance for sure. The shooter will need to adjust for over 60 MOA of drop at 325m. Luckily those stages will be limited to 1 or two occurrences in a match. The longer distance stages are there to provide a opportunity for solid fundamentals, perfect equipment and wind reading to come together to make hits at those distances. Production Division shooters may get zero or they may not. We'll have to see.
The goal of the Production Division is to limit the equipment to a level where most Canadians can participate, have fun and compete with similarly equipped participants. They may only get half or 3/4 of the points of the Open Division but we hope the experience provides them with enough satisfaction to return and either continue in Production or move to Open if they feel the equipment limits their potential.
We are spending a lot of time and effort in trying to develop a match that caters to both Divisions. We don't want everyone to clean every stage but we also don't want them to zero all the stages either. We will be ensuring that a bulk of the distances will be in the range that provides good feedback on the shooters' skills. The targets will range in size from 2-8 MOA depending on position difficulty and distance.
I think that while a FFP optic might provide some additional help we hope that a SFP scope will be enough for most shooters to make good hits and have some fun in the process. All of my competitions in the last 3 years have been with SFP optics in both Service Rifle out to 500m and Precision Rifle out to 1200m. I might have done better with FFP but I did well enough to enjoy myself and kept up with some of the guys with better gear. I am experimenting with some FFP scopes that I found that were around $350 and $450 MSRP CDN with 4-16 and 6-24 but that's more to see if they really work well over time. Our hope is that our Production Division shooters will find some workable optics in the $200 and under range with a good range of magnification, a useful reticle. Once they adjust the base or rings to get 40MOA of adjustment in the turret, they can do the rest of the adjustment by holdover.
We have a small invitational match setup for this weekend and have invited some of the best shooters I know in the east to test out the course of fire. We have a good mix of PRS, Service Rifle and Long Range shooters attending with a mix of production and open class platforms. We expect to get a lot of good data on the course of fire and platforms this weekend. From there we will adjust our course of fire for the year.
This year's event in BC in planned for August 11 in Merritt, BC at the Nicola Valley Fish & Game Club. Hope to see you there.
Regards,
Rick
 
I am definitely going to try to make it for Aug... being it is in my backyard. When you get some match details and contacts, please let me know (pm or email). Happy to help get the word out.

Congrats on pushing this through as I truly am excited about how this can get more shooters into this sport without a huge investment.

wrt to scopes, I totally get what you are suggesting and I hope that you can find useable optics at the price point you suggest. Look forward to your testing.

rugbydave, unfortunately with our crappy dollar, the Talos is above the $500 level.

FYI, the Athlon Talos BTR is $610... The Argos BTR is $720. Both will offer ALL the features commonly required in PRS type optics. I am sure other brands like Nikon, Burris, Vortex and Bushnell have suitable offerings at similar price points.

Just scanning prices of Cabelas site, the Savage TR is about as good as you can get for an off the shelf rimfire for production... listed at $600.

Based on what I see for listed pricing... consider raising the scope price limit to $800.... production rifle to $600 (assuming the dollar doesn't tank too much). Now a shooter can get a set up that will work, doesn't need to chase upgrades and has warranty support in case things go wrong. YMMV...

All the best with launching this series...

Jerry
 
I'm in...Just going to use my wife's Compact Ruger American Rimfire...however, I need to swap out the current optic since I can't hand adjust elevation and windage on it...looking into a cheap $200 Nikon P-Rimfire now...I think this setup will get me into Production division...
 
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