Canadian Tire/Walmart Safes. Do they meet restricted storage regs?

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I'll have my first restricted on the way shortly and I'm debating on how I'm going to store it. Out of all my options I'd like to have in sitting in a safe with mags and ammo. Just wondering if something like this will meet the restricted storage regulations?
 
Stack On Safes

I've purchased two "Stack On" handgun safes which are available at Canadian Tire.

The safes are approved by the Department of Justice (DOJ) California for storage of firearms and that is stated on the box.

That should meet all Canadian requirements.
 
I've purchased two "Stack On" handgun safes which are available at Canadian Tire.

The safes are approved by the Department of Justice (DOJ) California for storage of firearms and that is stated on the box.

That should meet all Canadian requirements.

That's the problem... There are no documented Canadian requirements... :(
 
I've got a stack on 8 rifle locker and my pistols sit on the top shelf with a trigger lock on them. You've got people constantly saying how they could be broken into so easy. I beg to differ. I'm not saying that they are up to par with a safe but when you're going to need power tools or a cutting torch to get into them it seems like a pretty good storage container. Other than a safe what's the other option? Molded plastic case? I'll pick the "tin can" any day.
 
Until this is decided through case law it's all just opinion. IMHO if it says "safe" on the box/manual and not "cabinet" or something else it meets the regs. May not be true for document fire-safes though.
 
In interpreting your compliance with the law, would not beyond a reasonable doubt be the standard by which the cabinet is more a cabinet than a safe? So the burden of evidence would be on the crown to show that beyond a reasonable doubt, the container is not a safe.
 
AFAIK, nothing in the regulations mentions the word 'safe', it refers to a secure storgae method that cannot be easily broken into. Many of us (the firearms community) seem to automatically assume that it has to be a 'safe' and then it gets debated as to what qualifies as a 'safe' whereas it doesn't need to be; it all boils down to our individual comfort level of security and being in compliance.
 
I bought a set of storage lockers from a used furniture store. these are the kind of lockers we had in high school. About 18" wide with a top shelf. There are four lockers to a set. Cost $100. I use the top shelves to store handguns (arranged by caliber). 22 & 25 in one, 32 and 380 in one, 38 and 9mm in one and 44-45 in the other. Rifles are stacked in the main lockers.

A set of 4 paddlelocks (all same key) makes it easy to get in, but since lockers are lag bolted to wall joists, not easy to break into or steal.

I have seen the gun cabinets sold at CT. They are flimsy compared to these school-type lockers. You might want to look to see if your local busienss furnature dealer has any used steel lockers. My chair at the loading bench is a nice office chair on castors that cost about $35 used.
 
You don't have to have a safe. You don't have to have a cabinet. You can have em in a container not easily broken into. Same as the container that is not easily broken into for transport. A black pistol case with a lock is good enough. It doesn't say not easily stolen. I have a safe myself but if you don't want to spend the money don't. I read somewhere on here before that easily broken into referred to not having to use tools to break into in. Makes sense to me. Any safe can be easily broken into with the right tools.
 
25 years ago my house was broken into while we were away for the weekend. I lost guns, watches, and jewelry.

My wife lost nothing. Her diamod ring was in the bathroom soap dish. A heavy gold necklace was in the kitchen. Her Rolex was in a bathroom drawer at the back door.

My stuff was all where it belonged.....

I have a fantasy of putting my rifles in a closet and putting labels on a locker showing where all the pistols and rifles are stored. This locker would be locked very securly put be scewed to the wall with dry wall screws. The thieives would get 'smart' and manoever my locker to the trunk of their car to be opened later. I would store my work clothes and rubber boots in it...

Just a fantasy. But something to consider.
 
You don't have to have a safe. You don't have to have a cabinet. You can have em in a container not easily broken into. Same as the container that is not easily broken into for transport. A black pistol case with a lock is good enough. It doesn't say not easily stolen. I have a safe myself but if you don't want to spend the money don't. I read somewhere on here before that easily broken into referred to not having to use tools to break into in. Makes sense to me. Any safe can be easily broken into with the right tools.

I store my magnum in the transport case, because it is securely locked and trigger locked and can't be easily broken into. I also store my shotgun in it's transport case that I got from Canadian Tire and keep it trigger locked and the case locked. I won't be buying a firearm safe, because I only have 2 guns. :cheers:
 
I'll have my first restricted on the way shortly and I'm debating on how I'm going to store it. Out of all my options I'd like to have in sitting in a safe with mags and ammo. Just wondering if something like this will meet the restricted storage regulations?

Staples has some nice little safes for 200-300 with some meat to them.
 
Shotguns dont need to be in a case as long as its non restricted you can hang it over your bed just needs a trigger lock.

Very true. If you really wanted to you could leave it out of sight in your vehicle, it's the easiest (but not the best) way around Canadian non-restricted storage laws.
 
Cabinet is not a safe... I think it has to be advertised as a safe for it to be OK to use as one.

Mine has 'electronic safe' written right on the thing...should be good enough! :)
 
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