Canadian troops in the Aluetians WW2?

The weather in the Aleutians is always horrible. The strange show on the Discovery channel about the crab fishing boats is filmed in the ocean just north of the Aleutian chain.

The campaign was a succession of naval and air superiority pushes. The land battle was over before the troops landed (as it should). Kiska Island was the main landing, but there had been a number of smaller island hops by that time. The RCAF had a few Catalina and P40 squadrons there, but these were withdrawn after the capture. The Canadian troops didn't stay too long either.

The Americans captured a Zero (or other first line fighter), some minisubs and lots of Japanese material which they used to improve the intelligence picture for some of the later battles. Kiska became a strategic problem for the Japanese after the Americans occupied it, because the airstrip put the Japanese home islands within bomber range from another direction. They had to garrison other islands to prevent aggressive attacks from the northern flank.
 
A friend of my parents; Peter Layton Cottingham, served with 1 SSF during WW2. He wrote a few books over the years, only one of which I have read: "One Upon A Wartime". I was lucky enough to find a copy of it at my local library just this summer (on sale - $1 !!!!!).
In later years, he was a car\truck salesman at Murray Chev Olds in Neepawa, MB., where I bought my first car from him. It wasn't until I found that book that I knew much about him, least of all that he was a WW2 vet...
Sadly, he has, I think, passed on sometime in the last couple years.


Jim
 
With virtually all combat formations in the active army deployed to Europe the majority of Canadian troops in this operation were conscripts,many of whom were "reluctant patriots" who could only be used on homeland defence duties.Had they actually gotten into combat with the Japanese it would have been interesting to see how their state of training and motivation would have sustained them.Fortunately that did'nt happen.
 
Actually, there was combat, but not against the Japanese. US and Canadian Units fought against each other in the Fog, quite a few casualties were suffered on both sides.
 
The Zombie Mutiny
15th Canadian Infantry Brigade.

Its my understanding that the French Canadian Fusiliers do St. Laurent (aka the Zombies) also went to fight in the Aleutians. Can anyone correct me on this?

These guys turned their guns on their own officers while stationed in my home town of Terrace, BC during WW2. The only mutiny to occur on Canadian Soil during WW2.

Here is the story.

Two days after having received the "King's Orders" mobilizing them to Europe the Fusiliers refused to go on parade - the base's senior officers were at an emergency meeting in Vancouver and stormy weather prevented them from returning in short order.

Shortly afterwards members of the Prince Edward Island Highlanders woke up to the fact that the Fusiliers had their weapons trained on them and had taken over weapon stores and the ammunition dump. The Fusiliers maintained that if the PEI Highlanders dared to go on Parade that morning "They would be made to suffer". For three days PEI Highlanders watched patiently from barrack windows as the Fusiliers patrolled the base in full battle dress, armed to the teeth.

On the evening of the third day the base's senior officers finally arrived from Vancouver and made plans to break the mutiny. The C.O. Fus. du St. L., Lt.Col P.H. L'Heureux, with a small garrison of men, confronted the mutineer's in both English and French at the drill hall. He defined the seriousness of the action they were taking. The men were read both section 7 of the army act, paragraph 420 (c) of the King's Rules and Regulations regarding the consequences of Mutiny. All of this was to no avail.

In a session of the House of Commons, Mackenzie King was handed a message from from Major General Pearkes which read:

"The situation in Terrace can now only be considered as mutiny - approximately 1600 men affected in Fusiliers du St. Laurent. Prince Edward Island highlanders and Prince Albert Volunteers in a demonstration without disorder yesterday. About 25% of garrison controlling the remainder by intimidation, occupying well organized positions with six pounders mounted. Have asked Attorney-General to close liquor stores (in Terrace) and prevent movement of liquor into it.

Brigadier (A.R.) Roy and Lt. Col (J.E.P.H.) L'Hereux now endeavoring to regain control of French units."


On November 28th the C.O. gave them 15 minutes to lay down their weapons and form up on the parade square. From the parade square they would get on a train and head for the East Coast. One by one the mutineers lay down his weapon and formed up on the parade square. The mutiny (aka "War of Nerves") was over.

Its my understanding that these French Canadians were conscripted under the promiss that they would never to be shipped over to Eurpore to fight "Britain's War" (which I never understood considering it was France that was invaded). So they signed up and were stuck in Terrace, BC as far from Europe as you can get really. Anyways the war in Europe was taking its toll on the Canadian Army and thus the Fusiliers du St. Laurent received the King's Orders to ship out. Thus they mutinied.

The "Zombie" term was a derogatory term taken from Hollywood horror movies meaning "The walking dead". It came to be used to describe the NRMA soldiers in 1942 because of the fact that their military training was to no avail. The troops seemed to have no purpose, no motivation, poor morale and poor discipline.

Court of Inquiry (3 December) assembled at Terrace
Only a few disciplinary actions were taken as a result of the Terrace Mutiny
Many of the NRMA men did not turn up in the eastern provinces once the train arrived (they jumped somewhere along the line). Their senior NCO's were obviously looking the other way. Those that stayed on the train enjoyed two weeks of rest before being sent over seas. According to reports from Britain they fought bravely and consequently charges for the incident were dropped. As for those that were indicted they were accused with dissobedience of a lawful order; and not many of these charges were pressed into a conclusion.
 
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It was the Régiment de Hull that served in the Aleutian campaign.

"Europe to fight "Britain's War" (which I never understood considering it was France that was invaded)."


People in Quebec at that time resented both the British and the French!

Invaded by one and abandonned by the other, even to this day older people will refer to the French as "Maudit Français" (damned frenchmen) in a sarcastic tone of voice.
 
French Canadians were conscripted under the promiss that they would never to be shipped over to Eurpore

I find it hard to believe they fell for this a second time! Memories are not so short in the belle province and the forester dupe of the great war would have been as fresh with the french as I know it was with many eastern Irish descendents.

Rexton NB was a great jumping off point for those conscripted to eastern travelling troop trains.

Court martial records are available and show the time in an interesting light. Yes many NCOs were charged with "allowing to escape from lawful confinement" post 1916 nobody was fooled anymore and no one in thier right mind was much interested in going to fight anyones war.

One thing is sure conscripted or not when the metal started to hit meat Canadians of all demographic and enlistment streams did thier mates proud.
 
I think I saw pictures posted here on another thread that showed that the canadians werre wearing American style uniforms and carying American equipment.

I love the #4, but the Garand may be the one rifle I would rather carry to a fight.
 
Interesting and shameful piece of history Riflechair. Thank you.
My ex's Dad, God rest his soul, grew up, on a farm, in the Peace River District of BC.
In a small rural area, known as Goodlow. His two older brothers were overseas during WW2 in uniform, of course.(he was too young to serve) When the zombies were garrisoned nearby, or seen at the train stations, everybody and his dog, locally, knew of thier reluctance to serve overseas.

It must have made thier garrison duties, very frosty indeed in BC.
And rightly so.
 
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