Canadian vs USA pricing on Eley

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Daniel G. Banting

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I shoot a fair amount of Eley ammo, mostly Contact and S.A Benchrest Outlaw. The pricing on these two labels will vary with the retailer but Contact is $10 to $13 and the SABO $12 to $14 per box. Checking prices on most of the known retailers in the USA shows pricing of $5 and $6.50 respectively. I know that story about volume US vs Canad but it does seem that the ratio is larger than with other brands.

I did write Korth the distributor for an explanation but got crickets in response. I guess this is nothing more than a theraputic rant but at least I feel better now that I've #####ed about it !

Best of 2024 to all,
dgb
 
Yeah, it’s frustrating to know we’re paying much more than the Americans for ammo that both countries import from the UK. There shouldn’t be much difference, and maybe even cheaper, importing ammo from the UK into Canada vs. the US. Must be the carbon tax. lol
 
Does it come to canada direct or through US distributers?
Some products like powder for example get additional labelling for outside the US
time is money
 
The complaint that American Eley pricing is better across the board for the ammo in question is not entirely fair.

In Texas Killough Shooting Sports (KSS) has long been an Eley supplier and is now owned by Eley. At KSS Eley Contact "starts" at $5/box (USD). At other places south of the border, some of them without any in stock, have prices from $6.95 (Creedmore Sports) to over $10 per box. Midway, for example, shows $9.99 but not in stock.

KSS has Semi Auto Benchrest Outlaw for $6.50 per box. While Creedmore Sports lists it for $8.95 per box, Midway shows it at $10.99 per box.
 
Tenda has Sport and Club at $110/brick and I've found my VMTR does OK with them, tho not as good as SK-RM, which is un-ob so far. I just got enuf to meet the $300 line. The price sucks but gotta feed 'em.
 
Like everything else canada imports
would be so much better for our country if we were more self sustaining
whats with importing apples from new zealand ffs

another rant....sorry
 
Maybe M.leTurd will bring in some immigrants to make stuff for us, since Canukians can't seem to make their own stuff.
 
struff55 said:
40% plus exchange then a distributor adds 20 % then a retailer adds 20% and there you have it that is how it works
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Because there are no distributors or retailers making that same markup in the US?

boxhitch said:
Like everything else canada imports
would be so much better for our country if we were more self sustaining
whats with importing apples from new zealand ffs

another rant....sorry
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Where are you gonna grow apples in January in Canada??? There is this term in economics called opportunity cost. I suggest you look into it, it'll explain a lot of why our produce comes from outside the country outside of summer months. Long story short, its cheaper to buy it from New Zealand than it is to grow it here. If it was cheaper to just grow the apples here some enterprising individual would most likely be doing it.


I am only just starting to shoot Eley stuff (bought some Sport a while ago and wasn't impressed, but I'm looking for something better than CCI SV so I'm going back down this rabbit hole), found some Club for $9.99, cheaper than most places are charging when bought by the brick. If my rifle shoots this stuff good I'm going to go clear them out of this lot lol (unless they have a ####load of it... They only had about 10 boxes on the shelf but who knows whats in the back)
 
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Suther, Yep, the Sport wasn't s-hot in my rifles either. I found the Club OK but even better (and lower $) was the Fed GM at $73/brick at Tenda. 'Pends on your gun, tho.
 
Suther said:
Because there are no distributors or retailers making that same markup in the US?



Where are you gonna grow apples in January in Canada??? There is this term in economics called opportunity cost. I suggest you look into it, it'll explain a lot of why our produce comes from outside the country outside of summer months. Long story short, its cheaper to buy it from New Zealand than it is to grow it here. If it was cheaper to just grow the apples here some enterprising individual would most likely be doing it.
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Apples are stored year round in warehouses. In the US(Washington state) they are stored in a controlled environment and stay in good condition until the next harvest. In BC we do not allow that controlled environment because it is too dangerous?(lack of oxygen, or some such reason) so I do not buy mush BC Delicious in Jan/Feb etc. but I buy Washington apples whenever...crunchy, sweet, and delicious. No need for New Zealand.

Quoting USA source... It's like putting the fruit to sleep. In a sealed room, the oxygen that the fruit takes in and gives off as carbon dioxide is reduced, slowing the ripening process. Oxygen is replaced by nitrogen/carbon dioxide gas. Temperatures are reduced and kept in the low to mid-30s. Apples can be stored for about a year, depending on the variety.
On average, treated apples stayed firm for 3 to 6 months longer than untreated controls when placed in controlled-atmosphere storage conditions. Red Delicious apples, for example, stayed crunchier 2 to 3 weeks longer than untreated controls after removal from storage.
 
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Anyway, cost of doing business is oftern higher in Kanada than the USA and Canadian distributers often add higher markups. 50 years ago Sony Canada marked things up 36-44% because they could. Way more than the USA.
 
4star60 said:
Apples are stored year round in warehouses. In the US(Washington state) they are stored in a controlled environment and stay in good condition until the next harvest. In BC we do not allow that controlled environment because it is too dangerous?(lack of oxygen, or some such reason) so I do not buy mush BC Delicious in Jan/Feb etc. but I buy Washington apples whenever...crunchy, sweet, and delicious. No need for New Zealand.

Quoting USA source... It's like putting the fruit to sleep. In a sealed room, the oxygen that the fruit takes in and gives off as carbon dioxide is reduced, slowing the ripening process. Oxygen is replaced by nitrogen/carbon dioxide gas. Temperatures are reduced and kept in the low to mid-30s. Apples can be stored for about a year, depending on the variety.
On average, treated apples stayed firm for 3 to 6 months longer than untreated controls when placed in controlled-atmosphere storage conditions. Red Delicious apples, for example, stayed crunchier 2 to 3 weeks longer than untreated controls after removal from storage.
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What is the cost to grow and store apples vs import them? My guess is for whatever reason its cheaper to import them, otherwise we wouldn't be doing it. Perhaps the cold climate of Canada means storage costs would be much higher (heating a warehouse through the Canadian winter isn't exactly cheap), perhaps we probably don't produce enough apples to store in the first place. Producing more apples would generally mean converting other agriculture to apples, which means we're producing less of something else that we would then have to import... Again, I bet you this is explained by opportunity costs, I just don't know enough about the Canadian apple industry to identify exactly what factors make it cheaper to import than grow/store though.

edit - actually it looks like we're storing a lot of apples already. 80% of Ontario's crop (they produce nearly 40% of apples in Canada) go into storage according to this article.
https://nationalpost.com/sponsored/food-drink-sponsored/bite-into-ontario-apples-all-year-long

So its simply a matter of not producing enough. To produce more would require producing less of something else. What are we gonna give up for more apples? (this is basically the entire premise of opportunity cost - you have finite resources, whether that be land, labor, or capital and you can only produce so much, so you have to choose what to produce. From an economic perspective this decision would be driven by supply, demand, and the equilibrium price.)
 
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the reason soft fruits are being replaced by grapes and cherries in the Okanagan, wine has more profit than fruit juice or cider

found another sticker shock for items from the south
Lyman primer pocket reamer, amazon.com- 11.99 , amazon.ca- 30.48
both shipped from amazon
 
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