CanAm 12,5 Barrel will they fit indexing issue ?

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I was wondering. I still have my Old 2 3/4" Wingmaster with the 1 mile long barrel. Anybody Know if the $150 Canada Ammo 12.5" Grizz barrel with fit ?
I remember reading last summer indexing problem with Grizzly barrel when fitted on a Remington.
Or I am better off buying a complete Grizzly ?
Are they chamber 3" or 2 3/4' will this work with a 2 3/4 wingmaster ?
thanks
 
Should is not enough for me, but thanks for the Answer.
I guess Ill just buy another complete gun one day instead of spending haft the money on something that might not fit
 
You can still use 2-3/4" shells in a 3" chamber... as long as you know (and inform the buyer if you ever decide to sell it) that it'll only feed and eject 2-3/4" shells, there shouldn't be any issue with that. Do you need 3" shells?

As for buying the entire Grizzly... that probably makes more sense. Getting one used might be the best bet... that way, you can take off the barrel and install it in your Wingmaster. If it works, great, you can sell the Grizzly action and stock. If not, just reassemble the Grizzly and sell that for what you bought it for.

However... someone else has a thread asking about the legality installing an aftermarket barrel and pistol grip on a Remington, which would shorten it beyond 26" OAL. You may want to take a look at that thread and decide if using a 12.5" Grizzly barrel is even legal... You may end up over 26", but since the Remington didn't come "from the factory" with the short barrel, it may end up prohibited. I believe the Firearms Act states that "Any rifle or shotgun with a barrel that has been modified to be less than 18" in length is prohibited" (I'm paraphrasing).

Here it is.
 
pope_face said:
You may end up over 26", but since the Remington didn't come "from the factory" with the short barrel, it may end up prohibited. I believe the Firearms Act states that "Any rifle or shotgun with a barrel that has been modified to be less than 18" in length is prohibited" (I'm paraphrasing).

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The 12.5" barrel is OK because it was manufactured at that length, not cut down to it. If the gun ends up under 26" with the short barrel and a pistol grip it will become a restricted firearm under the current RCMP interpretation of the FA. Bull#### ruling that it is, it will still stand in court.

Mark
 
Kenyon said:
the ejection port size on a 2 3/4" Wingmaster receiver isn't large enough for the 3" shells, the shells wouldn't eject, just get the whole grizzly you wont be disappointed
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I am sorry but you are mistaken, the ejection ports on 2 3/4" Wingmasters is the same size as the ones on 3 inch guns. The only difference is in the ejector... That being said a 2 3/4" gun can be fitted with a 3" ejector and as the long as you have a 3" chambered barrel you are good to go!

As to the question posed by the O/P I have a Grizzly from Canam and the barrel from it indexes perfectly on my 870 Wingmaster.
 
Hey Ckid, glad to hear yours indexed perfectly. I've tried 3 different chinese barrels on 3 different 870's( all older wingmasters) and they were all twisted to the left when you looked down the barrel.
Just like this one, this 870 has a milled top on the receiver that is flat so it's easy to rest it down flat on the table top...
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Here you can clearly see the poor indexing,
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I'd get the whole grizzly because the barrels are indexed properly for them but when it comes to fitting them on Remington's it's hit and miss or in my case all miss with 3 different barrels on 3 different Remingtons.

I don't get it how some people are getting good indexing....either I'm unlucky or others can't see it.
 
Looks nice Steve,
Just to be clear my chinese barrels index perfectly on chinese receivers it's when I've tried them on my Remington receivers that I've noticed the poor indexing. I've also noticed that some of my remington barrels would not fit on the chinese receivers as they were a bit to tight to seat in to the receiver without force, and the ones that did fit were poorly indexed in the other direction.
Your pictures show the barrel on a chinese clone but I'm assuming you tried the barrel on your Remington and the barrel was not canted which would be easy to see with the rear sight you added... Those Rem sights are my favorite for a rifle sighted shotgun!
 
My bad....Yes you are correct the pictures are of the barrel on my grizzly.

During the sight mounting process I did checks with both receivers to ensure I wasn't going to have any issues.

In my case the grizzly barrel is a snug fit in my wingmaster receiver, way better fit than the factory 28" and 20" slug barrels I have.

Looking again at your pictures it looks like the weld/braze job on the lug has quite a void in the middle, but it could just be the lighting in the picture.

As to what I did to the muzzle, I am assuming you are seeing the knurled portion of the Winchoke tube sticking out...another good deal of the EE.

Yeah I sure like the Rem sights...picked them up on the EE for $20
 
Or are you refering to the spring loaded detent I installed in the lug. This was done so I could use the wingmaster style mag cap retention system instead of the express style retention system that is stock on a Grizzly.
 
I was referring to the choke.
The detent is a good call, did you do it yourself?

It's a shadow from the barrel in the picture the braze is pretty clean.
 
I did the detent myself. I have a set of "hollow ground" punches that are made specifically for swaging in detent balls. However I did not use a ball in the application, I used a "stepped pin" made from drill rod and of course a spring.

Doing the installation on a 12 to 14 inch barrel is a piece of cake as it can be drilled without removing the lug from the barrel. Definitely not worth the effort to remove and rebraze a lug on an full length express barrel!

Yeah I figured it may be just the picture and not an actual void after taking a second look.
 
ckid said:
I am sorry but you are mistaken, the ejection ports on 2 3/4" Wingmasters is the same size as the ones on 3 inch guns. The only difference is in the ejector...
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i have a 60's 2 3/4 wingmaster and side by side the 3" grizzly ejection port is longer, i was told once the receiver itself was different and looked myself and it is, but yeah just use 2 3/4 shells and its fine
 
Kenyon said:
i have a 60's 2 3/4 wingmaster and side by side the 3" grizzly ejection port is longer, i was told once the receiver itself was different and looked myself and it is, but yeah just use 2 3/4 shells and its fine
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Very very long time ago there were some 870,s made with shorter ports, so i,m told, but dont know for a fact.
But i have 17 wingmasters and 5 express,s hear, all of them have the same size port.
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