Cane gun and antique pistol value question.

[Horilka]

I have a friend who's not computer savvy and he asked me to help with evaluation and selling of following antique items.

1. Pistol (what is the correct name of such type of pistols?). Seems to be in working condition. Serialized. F.Reuthe's Patent 1857.

2. Cane gun. Looks like made in England. Seems to be in working condition.

Any help with evaluating will be appreciated.

 

[Deuce-deuce]

A million dollars... Well somewheres in between a million and nothing. Details would help.

 

[Horilka]

A million dollars... Well somewheres in between a million and nothing. Details would help.

What kind of details? Are pictures visible in my post?

 

[antiqueguy]

What kind of details? Are pictures visible in my post?

yes but they do not speak to bore condition

 

[NorthCoastBigBore]

"bore condition" is not the only factor on these unusual pieces. They have a collector following regardless.

I suggest somebody could give a ballpark based on the info from the OP.

To refine the estimate, details regarding:

- how tight the action is
- estimate of overall finish remaining (if any, looks like patina)
- if there is any substantial pitting anywhere
- condition of the nipples (ie are they frozen in place and unlikely to be removed without damage)
- caliber
- any additional info on the makers' marks.

Nice examples, you don't see them every day.

NCBB

 

[Road King]

The first item you have is not a pistol but a trap gun. It is missing the part that holds the bait. I have had a couple of these over the years and usually sell for around $1000.00 to $1200.00 when complete. Some had handles like yours and some were with out.

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/lot-349-f-reuthe-s-patent-trap-gun-33925/
http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/collection/database/?irn=258005


The second item the cane gun is an English made and would be retailed valued at around $1000.00 in the condition it is in.

http://www.collectorebooks.com/gregg01/Lot-86.htm

 

[tiriaq]

The cane guns which I have seen sell went for serious money.
Road King beat me to the Julia reference.

 

[Horilka]

Thank you very much for your comments. I will get more information by the end of the week as my friend comes home only on weekends.

 

[plinker 777]

The cane gun appears to have a split in the barrel. Seriously impacting the Road King's otherwise accurate assessment.

 

[capitalj14]

These for sale? Im interested

 

[Willy Tincup]

Does the cane gun have the tampion? [Little plug that goes in the muzzle to protect it when walking]. Affects the value if it is missing. I assume it is a smooth bore. Many of them were made in 12mm, can you tell if that measurement is close in your gun.

 

[Horilka]

Apparently the owner backed up and is very reluctant to sell both of those items. Sorry for troubles and thank you very much for informative thread, I've learned something new for me.