Yea just prior to you post I edited mine to avoid a bad generalization...
Canoe advice
- Thread starter savagelh
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Yea just prior to you post I edited mine to avoid a bad generalization...
For what the original poster needs he could also find a light 14' boat or 12 and put a electric trolling motor on it....
As far as canoes tipping?
I have tipped a few...usually when you do something dumbmm..or try and use a canoe built for lake in a river with rapids....lol.
Nova Craft makes a model called Moisee?
It's extra deep with good amount of rocker....made for rapids.
As far as canoes tipping?
I have tipped a few...usually when you do something dumbmm..or try and use a canoe built for lake in a river with rapids....lol.
Nova Craft makes a model called Moisee?
It's extra deep with good amount of rocker....made for rapids.
blasted_saber
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- A blue part of Ontario
Minimum 17ft for the amount of weight you're looking at. Probably Kevlar.
This is what I have, with a few extras to make it a touch lighter (I believe mine comes in at round 56lbs). Admittingly, the company has changed hands since I bought mine, so I cant speak to the current quality, but mine is fantastic. Stable, can fit a lot of stuff, and very portage-able. My dad and grandfather have the exact same canoe as mine, but 30 years older. They are holding up perfectly. Capacity is near 1000lbs
http://abitibico.ca/en/products/sco.../adventurer-17?results=926,925,924,919,73,920
This is what I have, with a few extras to make it a touch lighter (I believe mine comes in at round 56lbs). Admittingly, the company has changed hands since I bought mine, so I cant speak to the current quality, but mine is fantastic. Stable, can fit a lot of stuff, and very portage-able. My dad and grandfather have the exact same canoe as mine, but 30 years older. They are holding up perfectly. Capacity is near 1000lbs
http://abitibico.ca/en/products/sco.../adventurer-17?results=926,925,924,919,73,920
I will second the electric trolling motor. After a day of hunting and slogging thru your stomping grounds it will be nice to power back to the campsite. I had a trolling motor on my canoe and it got around 4-6 mph and with a dinky car battery around 5-6 miles of range before completely running out of juice.
Nice and quiet, and if you get an aluminum canoe way quieter than bumping paddles on the hull.
If you're going to be hunting a slough, then I would suggest that you find one of those telescoping duckfoot poles for pushing your way through mud and cattails. Best investment I ever did for my hunting experience. I got mine at Cabella's
Nice and quiet, and if you get an aluminum canoe way quieter than bumping paddles on the hull.
If you're going to be hunting a slough, then I would suggest that you find one of those telescoping duckfoot poles for pushing your way through mud and cattails. Best investment I ever did for my hunting experience. I got mine at Cabella's
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
A well executed 'Canadian stroke' never touches the gunnels. https://paddling.com/learn/the-canadian-stroke/
Electrics are dandy for deeper water and fewer weeds, but paddles will always be king in the shallows, and on the portage.
Agreed,but occasionally I'll force a J-stroke onto the "quiet" ash gunnel to quickly avoid a rock or whatever.
Y'know, Coleman did that drop in their adverts a bunch of years back.
They let theirs hit on the end.
It didn't leak afterwards.
Yeah Coleman's are ungraceful heavy tubs o' poo. Whatever. You can load a moose into one, and tow it across a field full of anything short of sharp rocks, and it'll be fine, and you can ignore it for the rest of the year, same deal, it'll be fine.
Love the Prospecter style canoes, great for recreational paddling, but unless you spend the money on a good one, it's as heavy as the Coleman, and not as durable. Chopper gun fiberglass sucks ass. Hand laid, and properly, is bucks. Had a cedar strip canvas boat, had a couple fiberglass rigs, rented a few different Clipper models, bought the Coleman and kept it.
Sorta like the old station wagon that only gets plates put on to haul the trailer out to the cabin and back, it just works, even if it gots no style!
Species8472
CGN Regular
- Location
- Nipissing Township + 82a
One could write a book to answer those questions but some decent info on here already. Read most of the thread and I don't think i saw a budget. First step is to figure out how much you want to spend. Than go out to a bunch of outfitters and try a bunch of boats. Many outfitters are on the water's edge (around here anyways) and you can try stuff out to your hearts content. Try portaging a bunch of them too as weight and yoke design are important. My current hunting canoe is an H20 17' 6" Boundary that weighs in at 36 lbs. No keel and an asymetrical hull. It will carry 900-1000 lbs without issue. The most I have had in it is about 825 lbs and it was still easy to solo and handled better loaded than some of the cheap junk that I have paddled at friend's cottages.
This is a pic off the H20 website:
This is last fall with my 25 year old son in the front and his bear in the middle with a 50 inch gun case between the two of them angled from the yoke to the back of the front seat. For scale that bear was 210 lbs dressed with the hide on so about 240-250 live weight:
Before the H20 I used a 16' 6" Saugeen Bluewater for 20 something years. It could carry 800 or so pounds without issue and tipped the scales at 52 lbs. I still have have it and it still sees regular use but has been relegated to backup/spare where hunting is concerned.
The Saugeen with a 200ish lb bear:
Before the Saugeen I borrowed and/or rented for 10ish years and before that I was a canoe ranger for the MNR as a summer job for 3 years and we used aluminium Grummans.
I prefer no keel. More maneuverable.
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Royalex has been out of production for a few years so you'll only get it in a used boat which will command a premium among those who know it. If you find such in good condition and your budget affords it, it's a good choice.
Our club has a NovaCraft Prospector in TuffStuff. I chose it partly because I think I'll want one and this gives me a chance to see how TuffStuff stands up. We already knew NovaCraft's Prospector is a good example of this type of boat (we had one in plastic previously.) This is its second season and so far so good. Everyone I've catch using it gets asked whether they like it and why or why not. I've heard nothing negative from any of them.
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https://www.madrivercanoe.com/us/experience/faq/content/canoe-design-width-and-length
https://www.madrivercanoe.com/us/experience/faq/content/canoe-design-symmetry
https://www.madrivercanoe.com/us/experience/faq/content/canoe-design-keel-line
https://www.madrivercanoe.com/us/experience/faq/content/canoe-design-hull-design
https://www.oldtowncanoe.com/buying-guide/canoe
https://www.madrivercanoe.com/us/experience/faq/content/canoe-design-symmetry
https://www.madrivercanoe.com/us/experience/faq/content/canoe-design-keel-line
https://www.madrivercanoe.com/us/experience/faq/content/canoe-design-hull-design
https://www.oldtowncanoe.com/buying-guide/canoe
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
I've got a 17 foot Old Town. It's a hell of a boat but I wouldn't want to go on a big trip single handed with it. Hard to handle empty. Might be better loaded but still, she's big. But that said, I think she's only about 80 lbs so it's not impossible to pack some distance. And if you're doing a solo trip, especially a multi day job with the potential of carrying out an animal, you're not doing it alone...unless you're insane.
Of course, the smartest way to do anything with a canoe is to use a freighter, like Uncle Ted does.
Of course, the smartest way to do anything with a canoe is to use a freighter, like Uncle Ted does.
I went with a sportspal 12’ aluminium in camo. It’s 38” wide and holds 500lb. Weighs only 35lb and is tough as nails. It’s made in Canada and I found one new at a local supplier, paid $1100 all in. They come with paddles and a trolling motor mount... they’re purpose built for hunting and fishing. It’s stable, you can stand up and walk fore and aft no problem. It’s been great for fishin with the kids. I plan on getting after ducks with it this fall.
I had a 15” old town before that was plastic, I hated it.... it was way to heavy (80lb plus I think) and no where near as stable as the sportspal... If you need more weight capacity step up to the 14’, it holds 800lb and weighs only 41lb.
I have two 14 footers, ones a V-stern $50 for one, found the other one. I've had over 800lb in both of them a couple of times,no problem. There not great distance paddlers, but packing it in to lakes and ponds with no trail is nicer than my 18" Cliper.
leveractionjunkie
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Kamloops, BC
I think I’d move to Ontario just for the canoeing a available out there! Some awesome share here, thanks.
A Prospector is a good general purpose boat. I personally haven't used a Scott but I haven't heard anyone speak ill of them. Fibreglass is lighter than a similar sized plastic boat and not as robust, typically heavier than more expensive kevlar and/or carbon fibre layups and easier for the ordinary owner to repair.
(15" is much too small. 15' would be much better.
)- Location
- Ford Nation
I have 14' Scott canoe from the mid 1970's that my father bought brand new. It is a square stern and I used to put 3HP outboard motor on it, but now I use 2HP outboard on it.
The canoe is very stable and has lots of free board. My father used to use it on Lake Superior. Two guys can carry it like nothing.
It is a fiberglass canoe and one of the great things about fiberglass is it can be repaired easily in your back yard (I repaired and sold three fiberglass canoes this summer and repaired a fourth one that a buddy and I will stash at a favorite trout lake this fall). Nothing bad to say about Scott canoes, one of the best fiberglass canoes out there.
