Can't decide on a NR 308 black rifle.

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Originally I was going to get a M305 and tune it up. The FNH FNAR is very intriguing though as well as the new Troy PAR.

All these rifles appear to be capable of good accuracy out a fair distance. I would be using it for shooting steel and paper out to ~600 yards, varmint hunting and possibly other hunting as well.

The PAR is the lightest, scope ready, I like the AR layout and fairly quick follow up capabilities, and easy to find magazines but the pump action does not lend itself to shooting from a prone position.

The FNAR is likely the most accurate of the bunch out of the box, built really well with adjustable stock pieces in the box, good trigger, scope ready, but the take down is tedious looking, the magazines are expensive, and it is the most expensive off the bat.

The M305 is the heaviest of the bunch and sometimes takes work to make it accurate (unless I take a chance on one somebody else already tuned up). Magazines again are plentiful and not too expensive and it has a really good aftermarket out there for parts, stocks, etc. It is the least expensive to start but can add up in a hurry with upgrades. Also not scope ready out of the box.

So sway my mind CGN which one of these takes the cake in your book?
 
Out of those 3, I'd get the Fnar. The m305 is not very accurate and the par has issues with the fluted chamber. The only downside to the Fnar is the expensive magazines.
 
I just googled it. Those who have reloaded brass fired in fluted chambers seem to have very little issues. The fluting lets gases from firing help extract to case. Pumps and semi autos need full length sizing anyway because they can't extract with the same brute force as a bolt action. The HK91 has/had more aggressive fluting and the brass hits the ejection port on exit, denting it. Most "chicken little" posters seem the seize on this and apply it to the PAR. Apparently Larue is selling their guns with this feature too. The chamber wouldn't stop me from buying one. My "budget consultant" might though.
 
Honestly, I've had a lot of the fancier toys and I really have a undying love for the m14 variants. Yeah they are a little on the weighty side, but no more so than my xcr. I really love the rifle balance and the abundance of aftermarket options, and all the spare parts and mags as well as the wealth of information I've acquired. Yes my M305 shot like poop and rattles like a bag of loose parts when I got it but after an afternoon with TacticalTeacher and some scavenging on the EE, I've completely rebuild it, with new sites, new usgi stock, Springfield national match trigger and usgi parts... All in I was about 1500$... The amount of pride and confidence I have in that rifle is irreplaceable. I know it inside and out and could put it together with my eyes closed.

My point is that even though norinco's get the poop end of the stick, they polish up real pretty. I grab my norinco more than I go for my LRB M25...... I don't know why but my head thinks it likes the norinco better.
 
Anybody deal with the FNAR take down? Watched the video and it doesn't look impossible but it is more complichter than the other 2.

As well as far as 308 NR black riflesh go, are there any other options below the $2000 mark?
 
kwjkwjkwj said:
Anybody deal with the FNAR take down? Watched the video and it doesn't look impossible but it is more complichter than the other 2.

As well as far as 308 NR black riflesh go, are there any other options below the $2000 mark?
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You want to shoot to 600 and would consider a pump action? Why not a Ruger Precision Rifle or similar?
 
Also, not exactly a "black rifle" but a Jeff cooper design. The Ruger Scout Rifle is amazing. I have it in 18" and it shoots well under an inch for me and I'm honestly not a super savvy shooter. I really love it's handiness, calibre, reach, magazines and the bonus "hunting rifle" look of this "tactical rifle" and not much slower than semi auto when you really get into it.
 
I have a bolt action setup already, I just wanted to try a different platform. Plus the one I have is a heavy barrel and it is not very fun to pack around.
 
XCR. All .308 semi's are heavy, the XCR is a great platform.
http://xcr.robarm.com/xcrm.php

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kwjkwjkwj said:
Originally I was going to get a M305 and tune it up. The FNH FNAR is very intriguing though as well as the new Troy PAR.

All these rifles appear to be capable of good accuracy out a fair distance. I would be using it for shooting steel and paper out to ~600 yards, varmint hunting and possibly other hunting as well.

The PAR is the lightest, scope ready, I like the AR layout and fairly quick follow up capabilities, and easy to find magazines but the pump action does not lend itself to shooting from a prone position.

The FNAR is likely the most accurate of the bunch out of the box, built really well with adjustable stock pieces in the box, good trigger, scope ready, but the take down is tedious looking, the magazines are expensive, and it is the most expensive off the bat.

The M305 is the heaviest of the bunch and sometimes takes work to make it accurate (unless I take a chance on one somebody else already tuned up). Magazines again are plentiful and not too expensive and it has a really good aftermarket out there for parts, stocks, etc. It is the least expensive to start but can add up in a hurry with upgrades. Also not scope ready out of the box.

So sway my mind CGN which one of these takes the cake in your book?
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Ruger RPR
 
kwjkwjkwj said:
Really nice guns......but I could buy almost all three of the other platforms for the same price, and I am not convinced the Robinson really does anything better? So what makes it better than say the FNAR?
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in a few minute you can shoot .243 win or 260 rem and go back to 308 , plus it come in a variety of model , keymod , quad rail and partial section of rail , plus you can unload a 10 round pistol mag out of these ,
 
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