A policy the almost the eliminates the chance of a grab and run = ignorant
As I stated earlier I don't see what's wrong with using your communication and foresight to tell you who's going to run. This has nothing to do with being carded I don't understand why looking at a card for a brief second gives you the security to think they still wont run with the gun
A policy the reduces and nearly eliminates the number of people handling guns who are not even legally allowed or even intend to purchase them = ignorant
"]"Legally allowed" how so I held my brother in laws pistol and even shot it at the range without any legal documents but was under his supervision. There aren't any laws about this so quit making them up, I hope at all times you supervise all you customers when they handle firearms. How do you know I am not interested in receiving my my Rpal and aren't looking for more information etc. Oh yeah that's right those communication skills again.
If you think the 5 -10 seconds it takes to show a card is ignorant how were you able to to make it through the PAL application form with multiple pages of the most intrusive questions second only to police interrogation.
For the 5-10 seconds to ask me if I have my rpal and what level of shooting experience I have or if I'm looking to get into the sport, but you being ignorant would just rather blow me off with your blanket assumptions.
If been asked to see a card that proves you can legally own what you want to handle is so offensive you will not buy from a store (that does this just to protect themselves), then I'm surprised that you made it through your PAL form without getting mad and refusing to send it in out of protest.
You cant just define anything you don't like or understand as ignorant. A fudd attitude would be one that would be against all guns that are not over 30" and have a wood stock.
I consider a fudd anyone,especially a store that has a blanket policy about handling their firearms instead of using their personal experience and communication skills to see how interested I am in firearms and what brought me in today.
If it is just a problem, just tell the clerk what your situation is that you are waiting on your PAL. I'm not sure about all stores, but we would fine with that. It is funny that someone mentioned the type that would come in and link every gun to what they use in call of duty, this happens almost daily.
I would suggest if you read further back where you would have noticed that everyone in this thread gave personal experiences when they were practically cast aside like they had a disease because they didn't hold an PAL/rpal on their possession at that time. Me having me Rpal but not on me at the time was completely blown off. But yet in every industry but the gun one some retailers have a holyier than now attitude because the lack of competition and supply. I suggest you work better on those communication skills and maybe you would increase your client base as well as bring new shooters into the sport
People like you are the reason I am glad I gave up on management in retail. You are a minority of the people that come through the door and and with your "me first" additude by the time your type actually buys something the clerks are thinking "was it really worth the effort for this sale?" Let me expand abit on what I think the the dealer was trying to get at.
You go through a complete back ground check, providing very personal details about your private life.
You give the contact info of 2 or 3 people you have known for 3 years so the CFO can phone them and ask if you are a dangerous person.
You are required to have your spouce, ex spouse, girlfriend or ex girlfriend go through the same process.
You wait 2-3 months to have the goverment go over your records to decide if you can be trusted to own guns.
When you purchase a restricted, you wait between 1-3 days for the goverment to again decide if you should own a restricted firearm.
You must provide proof that you are actually a member (in most provinces), because the CFO does not trust your word that you are a member.
You ask the goverment for permission to move your firearm from point A to point B and this can take a few mins to a few days to get.
You take the firearm home (with the goverments permission) and double lock it because the goverment says so.
Yet what pisses you off the most is when a store asks you to take a few seconds to simpally show the card so that they know you actually have some intent to buy and can buy. If you are ignored or brushed off that is a completly different issue, no one would defend a store that would do that.
When a store has a policy, lets remember that they come up with a policy to cover themselves and limit risk. When people such as yourself ##### and complain about this it realy does not matter because as much as you think you know about how a gun store operates by the 20 mins you spend in one a month, I think that the guys who spend 4 weeks a month running the show would know a bit more then you or I how things need to be run. Having worked behind a busy gun counter before, I belive I can speak for most gun stores out there. If you bring your aditude of self entitlement into a store you can take it out through the same door fast.
You seem to be so angry over a policy that most on here can understand and support, I think that if you are so easily upset, I think private buisness of all types are better off without you.
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