Canucks' Booth taking heat for bear baiting excursion

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Canucks' Booth taking heat for bear baiting excursion
Hunting technique illegal in B.C.
By Michael Platt, QMI Agency


CALGARY - For a professional sports star, it’s about as unsporting a kill as they come.

Vancouver Canucks forward David Booth, safe and relaxed in his tree platform hideout, waiting patiently as a rotting stew of oatmeal, molasses and beaver offal works its magic on the bruins below.

Soon enough, the bears do come, wandering through the woods near Alberta’s Peace River, seeking out the pungent promise of easy food.

As one big male black bear sniffs around, trying to get a taste of the stinky slop hidden inside an old oil drum, the Canucks' $4.5-million puck swatter lets loose with an arrow, nailing the animal in the side.

It’s called bear baiting, and it’s illegal in 18 U.S. states, plus British Columbia, because it’s considered a cowardly way to kill, even by those who normally support hunting.

Former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura once said bear baiting doesn’t even qualify as a sport.

“That isn’t hunting. That is an ambush. That is an assassination,” Ventura said.

But Alberta still allows bear baiting, which is why Booth came to this province just one week after his NHL team crashed and burned in the first round of the Stanley Cup playoffs.

There’s nothing like luring an unsuspecting bear into a deadly trap to cure disappointment, apparently -- unlike opposing players, baited bears have no chance of winning.

The hunt is to air on reality TV show The Edge and Booth has bragged about the kill over social media, posting photos and taunting critics.

“You have every right not to watch just like I have the right to choose to hunt,” Booth tweeted after posting a video of the kill online.

During the hunt he tweeted, “In Alberta trying to kill a few bruins. #unleashthefury,” followed by, “Just killed a Chara-sized bruin! 7ft black bear - 21in skull.”

The Michigan-born Booth may be deft with a bow, but he’s totally fumbled the outcry over this bloodshed.

Even supporters of the team have taken offence over the 27-year-old’s cheap-shot bear kill.

“I don’t condemn hunting seeing as I eat meat, but to glorify killing an animal like he is a little sickening to me,” one person wrote on a Canucks fan blog.

Another said the kill should cost Booth his job.

“Trade him. This is sick ... It’s different to hunt for meat. But to hunt like Booth did that is gross and then to post it. Yuck You are sick.”

Vancouver’s humane society has called Booth’s actions unfitting for a public figure admired by so many.

“We find that kind of hunting appalling -- he’s a well-know hockey player who’s a role model for many, particularly young people,” society spokesman Peter Fricker said.

“He’s setting a very bad example, and I’m not surprised he’s getting such a negative reaction.”

That’s not to say Booth doesn’t have some defenders on his side.

Among them is Blair Inscho, the man who runs Twin River Outfitting, and the guide who took the NHL player and his television crew into the woods to shoot a bear.

Inscho said Booth is taking it on the chin because of his fame -- and whether people agree with it or not, the American hockey player did everything according to the rules.

“It was 100% legal, done by the book,” said Inscho, a guide for 35 years.

“People want to criticize, but if he wasn’t a hockey star, nobody would even care."
 
Hunting

Definition

• chasing and killing an animal or bird for food, sport or profit

is it really hunting to bait bears?

Or is it just land fishing.

not against the law...but it's still morally bankrupt imo
 
Is baiting bears is worse than:
waiting for deer to feed in a farmers crop
hiding in a barley field waiting for ducks/geese to feed
fooling a moose into thinking he is going to get a piece of tail [very cruel]
chasing a cougar with dogs,then treeing it then shooting out of the tree

Hunt the way you want as long as it is legal.
 
Laws broken? Nope
other peoples business? Nope
happening in your back yard? Nope
risk to life or property? Nope
cost to society? Nope
busy bodies trying to run other peoples lives? BINGO


I'm not a hunter - never have been, but I don't think that gives me the right to get all sanctimonious on those who hunt, as long as they're not hunting Chihuahuas in my back yard - even then, I wouldn't get sanctimonious, I'd get even.
 
Is baiting bears is worse than:
waiting for deer to feed in a farmers crop
hiding in a barley field waiting for ducks/geese to feed
fooling a moose into thinking he is going to get a piece of tail [very cruel]
chasing a cougar with dogs,then treeing it then shooting out of the tree

Hunt the way you want as long as it is legal.

The difference is that those are all wary animals that you have to put some effort into concealing yourself/luring them in. Except for the cougar/dogs... but that hunt takes considerable effort and training to work with the dogs... run him down... find him and shoot him ect...
Baiting bears is not "hunting". It's just killing... like hanging a bird feeder on your deck while you sit at your patio table and whack them with the pellet gun.
Theres a ####load of bear get shot this way though, especially where I live, and what do I care if somebody wants to do it. Try the bird feeder thing too.
 
Hunting

Definition

• chasing and killing an animal or bird for food, sport or profit

is it really hunting to bait bears?

Or is it just land fishing.

not against the law...but it's still morally bankrupt imo


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You obviously have no clue about bear hunting. In many types of terrain baiting is the only way to have a chance of taking a bear. Even with bait, there are so many things that a bowhunter has to do right to even get a shot within bowhunting range. And even when doing everything right, there are still no guarantees.

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Congratulations to David Booth on his nice black bear. Too bad baiting is not allowed in B.C., as the black bear is likely the most under utilized big game species in the province, and is definitely not in short supply. I'm not certain of exact tallies, but a substantial number are shot in town (Prince George) every year by COs here. Of course some of the blame for that goes to residents who leave bear attractants around their residences. Though baiting may tip the scales to an "unfair" chase situation for the bruins, B.C. does have regulatiions which make it mandatory to transport edible portions of the carcas to one's place of residence. All that said, I doubt there are very many unsuccessful black bear hunters in this part of the province as the bears are usually fairly easy to find, both during the spring and fall seasons. I almost always buy a tag in the spring, but nowadays would shoot one only if it was particularly big, a color other than black, or seemed to be disputing my right to occupy a particular location in the outdoors.
 
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You obviously have no clue about bear hunting. In many types of terrain baiting is the only way to have a chance of taking a bear. Even with bait, there are so many things that a bowhunter has to do right to even get a shot within bowhunting range. And even when doing everything right, there are still no guarantees.

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guarantee?...in hunting?

LOL

y'know if you copy paste you could prolly get a dozen more face palms in there.


baiting bears is only a few steps away psychologically, from cage hunting imo.

http://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/2008/02/fish-in-a-barrel-lions-in-a-cage/

it's weak sauce lame
 
guarantee?...in hunting?

LOL

y'know if you copy paste you could prolly get a dozen more face palms in there.


baiting bears is only a few steps away psychologically, from cage hunting imo.

http://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/2008/02/fish-in-a-barrel-lions-in-a-cage/

it's weak sauce lame


Are you one of the RETARDS that were blasting David Booth on Youtube!? You sound like it... See, this is one of the biggest problems with this; holy-than-thou a**holes like you, that rip fellow hunters.

Before you start, I have never baited bears. It's way too much work. Too expensive to go back and forth hauling supplies to a bait site also.

But baiting is a great way for a lot of people to hunt, see a lot of bears, and be truly selective, rather than shooting 'dink' bears, or sows by mistake.

And since it's perfectly legal, ethical etc, hunters need to support each other.

It's f**king whiners like you that fuel the anti-hunting sentiment and lead to s**t like what happened in Bantario.
 
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“You have every right not to watch just like I have the right to choose to hunt,” Booth tweeted after posting a video of the kill online.
Yep. :)

Too bad USP wasn't still here modding as I think some infractions would be handed out for trolling this sub-forum.
 
Baiting is legal and there is no guarantee the bears will come to it. It also allows for selecting the bear you want as you have time to judge it before you shoot. How nice that the high and mighty have shown up to tell us how wrong we are to bait bears (I'm referring to some who have posted in this thread).

Today they are up in arms over bear baiting, tomorrow it will be running dogs for cougars and deer. Eventually we will have all our hunting rights stripped from us altogether. Not much different than fudds vs. hand-gunners vs. black rifle guys. We're all in this together.
 
...is it really hunting to bait bears?
Or is it just land fishing.
not against the law...but it's still morally bankrupt imo

Sir or madam... you do not have a clue about what you are talking about. I have hunted bears for 35 years, using many methods; spot and stalk, still hunting AND baiting. Baiting a bear is FAR from a foregone conclusion. until Ontario banned the spring hunt (due to underhanded and illegal political manipulation)... the success stats for spring bear harvesting (where 99.5% of hunters used baiting as their method) were identical to the deer harvest stats. Bears do not follow as predictable a daily pattern as ungulates, they are opportunistic when it comes to food sources, they have territories that are 10-20 times the size of most ungulates. Bears are often found in terrain (northern wilderness bush), where other methods can be impractical and in some cases impossible. Taking a bear by baiting requires a tremendous amount of work, effort and dedication... most huinters that I have taken out, vowed to take up the sport... but bailed out when they discovered what it takes to do successfully... more effort and planning goes into baiting than into almost any other kind of hunting (and it most certainly is hunting, in every sense of the word)... except for mountainous sheep hunts and perhaps major float expeditions for moose.

...Baiting bears is not "hunting". It's just killing... like hanging a bird feeder on your deck while you sit at your patio table and whack them with the pellet gun.

I think that your theory lacks practical experience (see above)... give it a try and you WILL change your tune... I "guarantee" it.

guarantee?...in hunting?

baiting bears is only a few steps away psychologically, from cage hunting imo... it's weak sauce lame

You are very determined to reveal your complete ignorance.
 
Hunting
Definition
• chasing and killing an animal or bird for food, sport or profit
is it really hunting to bait bears?
Or is it just land fishing.
not against the law...but it's still morally bankrupt imo

baiting bears is only a few steps away psychologically, from cage hunting imo.... it's weak sauce lame

I'm guessing you're against calling coyotes or hunting waterfowl over decoys as well? (Psst, you're in the wrong thread ... I think you're looking for 'You laugh, you lose'). :rolleyes:
 
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