Carbines of WWII

Drachenblut

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Hello,

I am accruing slowly a collection of WWII carbines, and would like to compile a list of rifles used by each nation, and was hoping you fine fellows and lasses out there might help me list a few, a short history on them, and which country used them, availiability and general market price.

I have so far:

Japanese Type 38 Cavalry Carbine
English ROF (F) Lee Enfield No.5 Mk.I Jungle Carbine
K31 Swiss (Not really a carbine but it falls into the "kurtz" category)
Russian M-38 Carbine

Let me know what I'm missing. I am not interested in Italian or the American semi-autos. Bolts only please.

Yours,
Drachenblut
 
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louthepou said:
A French MAS 36 maybe - is it considered a true carbine?
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A "short rifle"- no other configuration made unless you consider the MAS 36 LG48 and 36/51 which have longer bbls by dint of their grenade launchers.

The Berthiers were the last true carbines used by France.

The last italian true carbines were the Carcano 91 Moschetto Cavalleria and Moschetto Truppe Speciale . The M38 was referred to as a Fucile Corto or short rifle but there were also Cav. and TS carbine models.
 
maxim08 said:
Nic3500,
Why not the Mauser K98? Wasn't this basically a short Karbine (K) version of the G98?
Regards,
John
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I suppose you'd need to define 'carbine'.

I'd say that it would be any rifle created/designed as a shorter alternative to a primarily issued equivalent. The G98a would be a carbine, but I don't think I would count the K98k. Partly, because the Treaty of Versailles didn't allow for Germany to manufacture 'rifles', only 'carbines'...so they're a "Karabiner" in name only I'd think.
 
Well, the G33/40 is nice... if only it weren't in the 1000's or high 00's. As for the Czech VZ 33 is another option. Never heard of the M38 Swede or M94 Swede either.
 
Drachenblut said:
Well, the G33/40 is nice... if only it weren't in the 1000's or high 00's. As for the Czech VZ 33 is another option. Never heard of the M38 Swede or M94 Swede either.
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The EE is littered with M38's, such as:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=390790&highlight=6.5x55

Not sure on the 94. My M38 is a super handy rifle that balances perfectly. I just got it a couple of weeks ago and haven't had the chance to shoot it yet, but pretty much all the Swede's shoot well and the 6.5x55 is a fantastic cartridge.

Mark
 
don't forget the Italian Carcano bolt action carbines or the various mauser carbines and their spin offs. You are opening a huge can of worms here and if you're willing to do bit of research on your own, you will see that you might, if extremely lucky, become a millionare, build an underground vault covering at least an acre, mange to complete your collection.
 
Jiggi-watt said:
I suppose you'd need to define 'carbine'.

I'd say that it would be any rifle created/designed as a shorter alternative to a primarily issued equivalent. The G98a would be a carbine, but I don't think I would count the K98k. Partly, because the Treaty of Versailles didn't allow for Germany to manufacture 'rifles', only 'carbines'...so they're a "Karabiner" in name only I'd think.
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I prefer my Gewehr 98b over my Kar98k for overall weight, for a carbine, that K is sure heavy for what it was intended to be designed for. My Kbk wz 98 (Polish version of Kar98AZ) is very desirable as it is very light and well rounded (and feels good to handle too) and not to forget she can take the heavy spitzer round.
 
I would set the K98k in the carbine list, it is a carbine length and designation.

Nabs, your 98b has the 28.5 inch barrel? I consider mine about the same weight as my k98k variant, even with the extra barrel length.
98az, nice collection :eek:)
 
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