Carcano at range

tiriaq

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Took my 1942 1891/41 AG Cremona to the range this afternoon. First time I've used a Carano; have avoided them until this one followed me home. Used Prvi Partizan 6.5x52 ball. The sights are not easy to use with eyes almost as old as the rifle. At the lowest setting, the POI is about a foot high at 100; it was also shooting to the left. A higher front sight properly centered will cure the zero. Groups were running about 3"-3 1/2". As I indicated, middle aged presbyopia makes consistant sight picture difficult. The mechanism is smooth, charger loading is easy and very functional, feed, extraction and ejection positive. Rifle is very comfortable to shoot, recoil being mild. Even though this is a long rifle, it is not heavy, and it handles quite nicely. In other words, I can't understand why the Carcano gets no respect. It is a perfectly usable service rifle of the period.
 
Carcano

Hello,

I have a FAT 42 M41 Carcano and I think it is a great rifle. I just can not find any ammo to shoot through it.

I think the reason that they get no respect is the stigmata that comes with a rifle of a country that lost so badly during WW2. Also the disign is pretty old and most people don't see it for what it is worth.

Cam
 
I do not think that this nice fresh ammunition was ever imported into Canada in quantity. Found one box at a show. From now on it will be all handloading. The design is old - same general vintage as MNs, early Mausers, Long Lees. While Italy's participation in WW2 was unfortunate, WW1 was a different story. Fighting on the Austrian frontier was fierce, and Italian soldiers acquitted themselves as well as the troops of any other nation.
 
The privi ammo uses the .264 bullet, your groups will probably shrink when you load them with .268. I don't understand why they get no respect either, maybe we should have an all carcano shoot & put these myths to bed for good.
 
tiriaq said:
The design is old - same general vintage as MNs, early Mausers, Long Lees. While Italy's participation in WW2 was unfortunate, WW1 was a different story. Fighting on the Austrian frontier was fierce, and Italian soldiers acquitted themselves as well as the troops of any other nation.

I agree, in WW1 the Italians really fought hard. But I think the fact that they did poorly in WW2 helped to spread these rumors about the Rifle.

As well, It can't be that bad if it was used to kill a US President.

We should have a Shoot made up entirely of the Carcano series to show that it is a good rifle. The only problem would finding the ammo. I have been looking for a couple of years and still have not found any that I can shoot.

Cam
 
They are the Rodney Dangerfield of military rifles. When they first came on the surplus market in the 50s some "experts" wrote they were a poor design because the bolt sleeve was retained only by a small lug and would blow out in the event of a case failure.. In reality it is held by a large lug on the safety when the bolt is in fireing position.
 
Cam_S said:
I agree, in WW1 the Italians really fought hard. But I think the fact that they did poorly in WW2 helped to spread these rumors about the Rifle.

As well, It can't be that bad if it was used to kill a US President.

We should have a Shoot made up entirely of the Carcano series to show that it is a good rifle. The only problem would finding the ammo. I have been looking for a couple of years and still have not found any that I can shoot.

Cam

http://www.norma.cc/sida/eng/index.html

The only problem is the cost, about $50.00/box of 20 rounds.
Reloading is the way to go.
 
I am most impressed anyone takes these rifles out for the first time and field tests them.I have yet to do so myself and always appreciate reports on their performance - so on behalf of all us, THANK YOU.

How did the rifle feel?
We always hear reports from sites such as suplusrifles.com they always make out that every rifle is a MUST HAVE but I believe they are in the back pocket of century international arms, etc...

What is real and what is fake?

I honestly look forward to your perspective.

My Warmest Regards

Richard
www.canadagunboards.com
 
How does it feel? Great! Nice balance(long rifle for me, some like the carbines better), super light trigger(In my case & a few others I have handled), light, sights are good once you figure out how to use them, low recoil & once you get your ammo worked out pretty dammed accurate. The action on my war produced 41 is like sandpaper but the earlier ones are much smoother. They are a bit small but so were the Italians of that era.
 
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