Carcano (winnipeg gun show)

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Hey guys, finally got out to a show first one, well found myself face to face with a carcano, so from what i was told by a buddy this is a 91/24 ? correct? what can you guys tell me about them? what are they worth?

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Also picked up these from a guy at the door,
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Nice find !!!! my friend the ammo box is beautifull and quite rare !!

yes its a 91/24 a long carcano m91( you see this at the sight and the sling atachment ) shortened by the italian in the 20s !!

200-250$ i think but maybe 150$-200$

Fredqc is a nice carcano collector on this site
 
i have 3 carcano like a said in the past, and i think this gun is underestimate it make a nice ad to a milsurp collection!!

the ammo i think will missfire beceause they are not berdan i have 3 boxes and i shoot one ( 18/18 missfire :( ) so its for display
but you have a nice box with years very close to your carcano, if you dont want them il take it for sure :)
 
I bought one a couple year's ago at Swtizer's Auction. Paid $190.00 plus tax for mine. It is the shortest military carbine out of several I have. Have put a couple hundred rounds through it. Mostly cast reloads. A really neat little rifle. Enjoy.
 
Oh, my! Nice rifle but now you're gonna have to paint it with truck-box liner just to keep up with the Tac crowd. (Jan sez don't you dare and has offered to rescue it!)

It is a conversion from an original Fucile 91 (Rifle 91) into 91/24 TS. The TS is Truppi Speziali, which is Special Troops. Nowadays we would call them Special Forces although not quite the same thing: more like Pioneers, Engineers, Artillery, truck-mounted troops and so forth, anyone who didn't have room to carry one with a 31-inch barrel. So you can honestly say that you have a genuine Fascist Special Forces rifle! There will be a big rebuild mark on the Butt that lets you know where the work was done and what year it was done in.... in two different systems. It will be marked with the normal date (example 1937) but it will ALSO be marked with the Fascist date (in this example, XV) because the Fascist period in Italy was the Refounded Roman Empire. The Refounding took place during Mussolini's March on Rome in 1922.

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with a Carcano, friend, and you have a nice one with a big chunk of history behind it. Like as not it served in the First World War on OUR side (when Italy was our staunch Ally, standing up to the hordes of Austrian Imperialism and Kaiserism) and in the Second War AGAINST us (when Italy was bunch of Fascist buffoons and tools of the Nazis). That is wartime propaganda: the Italians fought well in BOTH wars and the Carcanos were the same ones, by and large: only the propaganda had changed.

They are a FINE light rifle but they need a special-diameter bullet. Trade-Ex HAS bullets and brass, even Lee makes the dies, so you have no troubles there. I would suggest a fairly-quick powder (nothing slower than 3031) for this shorty; you want the charge to burn IN the barrel, not in the air. This REALLY reduces flash and report, gives you a NICE, DOCILE rifle. You MIGHT get by with flatbase 140s, too; I have couple that like them. And you have 3 copies of the old-time BRASS clip: very pretty and they can be used hundreds of times, also comparatively scarce. That original ammo is DEFINITELY collection stuff. SOLENITE is the type or powder they used. The carton is marked "For Rifles and Machineguns". This rifle WILL flatten Bambi or Benny if you have tags.

You have scored yourself a Very Nice Toy at a bargain-basement price. Go buy a 6/49 ticket!

I like it!
 
thanks smellie, i was there with steve (tinman) and he was looking at one, and so i picked one up so the guy was like 2 for 100 a piece, then his borhter bought one for 50 yeah we bought 3 at once, the 24, a 38 and a 41, i was more leaning towards the 38 as thats the model they used in the JFK shooting, i think the ammo will be kept for collection stuff i noticed the clips were brass not like steel one fellow was trying to sell, i like this gun, small light and like you say a ton of history behind it, ive gotta clean it up a bit as shes a bit greasy, dusty and a bunch of crud in the tight cracks, i have to invest in a reloading kit, but i may just buy brass and maybe steve will load me some up, i know nothing about reloading and i dont have the cash to buy all the stuff, thanks for the info, im most definatly going to bring this one out to the milsurp shoot along with my ross, did anyone go to the mcsherry auction? im so curious what the ross rifles when for i heard the sporters sold for 600-700 but the full wood m10 only for 800?
 
Buffdog went to the McShrry auction, as far as I know.

He had eyes on some beat-up Sniders..... and on that full-wood Ross.

He has not (as yet) reported in, so we are all on pins and needles here.

The suspense is terrrrrrrrible!
 
i think he was at the gun show today as well, tinman said he was chatting with him, i think i may have talked to him, but im not sure, the show today was nice but alot of Big prices, guy wanted 550 for a nicer 303 sporter, i was like yeah no thanks, id like to know what the prices were at the auction, few guys went but not alot stayed for the military stuff, i should have gone,
 
Great show today! Here's my purchase!

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And my brother's

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He also grabbed a '89 schmit Ruben and a p14 Sporter!

Also I grabbed 2000 30 cal gas checks, a Lyman black powder book, 5 .303 stripper clips and the best of all I finally got my hands on a PH5C sight with the adjustable iris!!! My AG PARKER longbranch is back to her original status!
 
was there the normal table of 303 mosin and mauser sporters? i was gunna go but was up till 6 am cleaning my rifles and lost track of time, by the time i woke up it was 2 lol,
 
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All three of those were in very nice condition, and well worth the asking price. I looked at them, but I have several Carcanos at home. Only problem that Steve is going to have is to keep his charming other half from grabbing it from him. All of you did well on those Carcanos.

And while I am at it, my thanks to TALQUIN, who acted as a "Bird Dog" and pointed me at a slightly "Bubbaed" Swedish m/96 Mauser that had a price tag on it that was too good to pass up. The bolt had been cut and welded and a slight cut made in the stock, but I was looking for a sort of a "parts gun" for a little project so it was perfect for that.

I had attended the McSherry's Auction in Stonewall, MB., the day before, and while there were some head shaking prices realized, there was also some fairly reasonable prices on some items. The Black Powder hunting rifles went low, (in my opinion,) and a lot of the Military stuff was up there where you had to wear an oxygen mask to bid at that level.

However, two rifles, and a fair amount of other goodies followed me home, and I did end up with a nine pocket Canadian marked Cavalry Bandolier.

And, yes, Winchester 30-30, you did talk to me and we talked about the Carcano and the ammo.
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i thought so, but wasnt sure! i was looking at that mauser but it looked way too butchered for my tastes, im happy with the carcano, i wanted the model 38 but got a 24, so if steves wife lets me trade i think i will,
 
Cant remember what the 4 Ross's went for, but only the full length one had sights... Rephrase...one had 'aftermarket' sights.
And I was looking forward to adding a Ross to my 303 cabinet :(
Clint
 
Wayne, thanks for the heads up on that Parker sight, it looks REAL NICE on my longbranch and the sight picture on the smallest hole setting is exactly what I was after. The stock mkIII sight that was on the gun was way too big for my eyes!

I pulled the carcano apart and I found a pound or 2 of thick grease under the stock. Messy to clean but underneath the metal is like new. I can't wait to order dies, brass, and bullets cause I know there's now 2 other carcano owners that want to shoot their new toys!
 
im waiting :) hopefully we can get a good ammo stocked up and we can have a fun shoot

What is this "stocking ammo" you speak of? Won't happen in my house, I roll up some ammo and we shoot it all! Then I roll up some more and before I know it thats gone to!!

Only think I seem to stock is .22 and that's cause we buy a 1000 at a time.
 
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