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So I have a few questions that is targeted mostly to you predator hunters. What do you do with the carcass of the Yot, wolf, etc of the animal you don't plan to eat. Would you, could you eat a yot or wolf? not sure if im brave enough to do so. Do you compost it, send it to the landfill, cremate it? The other question is do you tan your own hides? if so, could you fire me a few good references on how to tan a hide for use in making gloves or other clothing. There was an incident were someone I know had to kill a wolf because it was going after his livestock, unfortunately he did nothing with the carcass which seems like a wast to me.
 
Hide - furry skin.
carcass - body devoid of hide.
I dump the carcass back in the woods for more bait.
Good quality northern wolf hide can go up to $600 at a fur auction.
 
Depends on which Province you live in.
Some treat a yote as a game animal such as the Province of Alberta.
Here in BC, they are treated as a varmint and therefore shoot them on site as long as you have a general hunting lic. and the area you are shooting is an open area and in season as well.
Me, I would leave them where they fall...not interested in the debate or morals of shooting and leaving a varmint.
Thats just me though, soon to be flamed for my comments.
If the lead aint flying the coyote aint dieing !
Rob
 
The only regs that I have seen regarding Wolves and Coyotes for the area im in is the pelts have to be submitted to a conservation officer before you do whatever with it.
 
BC regs state that you must harvest the pelt as it is a fur bearing animal. You can dump the carcass in the woods for the following weekend.
 
In Ontario, the regulations state if its acceptable, to not be wasted.

The exact wording:
Ontario Hunting Regulations said:
You may not let the flesh of any harvested game wildlife (see Definitions, page 86) which is suitable for food be destroyed, spoiled or abandoned. This includes black bear. A hunter who kills a furbearing mammal shall not abandon the pelt or permit the pelt to be spoiled or destroyed.

Based on that wording, and the fact that most coyotes and some fox in my area have mange, that 'left where it fell' would be acceptable, as
1) Coyote meat is hardly a suitable food, even without mange, although I have no first hand experience in eating 'yotes, I know a few dudes who did it on a dare, and it wasn't pleasant.
2) Again, with mange, the fur becomes spotty, and would therefore wouldn't make a decent piece of toilet paper.

EDIT: Correct if wrong.
 
So it seems that most people here would skin and ditch the carcass for scavengers and or bait for other predators?
 
For ONTARIO....
The hunting summary the MNR provides to the public does not reflect the requirement of the ACT...and so here for your perusal are some of the sections.

This is from the ACT.

“furbearing mammal” means a member of a species set out in Schedule 1 or prescribed by the regulations as a species of furbearing mammal; (“mammifère à fourrure”)

Abandonment of meat

36. (1) A hunter or trapper who kills game wildlife other than a furbearing mammal shall not abandon it if its flesh may become unsuitable for human consumption. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (18).

Abandonment or spoilage of pelts

36. (3) A hunter or trapper who kills a furbearing mammal shall not abandon the pelt or permit the pelt to be spoiled or destroyed. 1997, c. 41, s. 36 (3).

Schedule 1
FURBEARING MAMMALS


Common Name

Badger, American; Beaver; Bobcat; Coyote; Fisher; Fox, Arctic; Fox, Grey; Fox, Red (all colour phases); Lynx; Marten; Mink; Muskrat; Opossum; Otter; Raccoon; Skunk, Striped; Squirrel, Red; Weasel, Least; Weasel, Long-tailed; Weasel, Short-tailed (Ermine); Wolf


This is from the Regulation 665 for ONT
134. A hunter who is licensed or authorized to kill a furbearing mammal is exempt from subsection 36 (3) of the Act and may abandon a pelt or permit a pelt to be spoiled or destroyed if the pelt is of no commercial value. O. Reg. 665/98, s. 134.

To me this means:
A) I dont have to eat the meat of any animal listed in Sch 1 and can permit it to spoil
B) I can abandon the pelt of any animal in Sch 1 it is has no commercial value.

Perfectly clear.
 
For ONTARIO....
The hunting summary the MNR provides to the public does not reflect the requirement of the ACT...and so here for your perusal are some of the sections.

This is from the ACT.

“furbearing mammal” means a member of a species set out in Schedule 1 or prescribed by the regulations as a species of furbearing mammal; (“mammifère à fourrure”)

Abandonment of meat

36. (1) A hunter or trapper who kills game wildlife other than a furbearing mammal shall not abandon it if its flesh may become unsuitable for human consumption. 2009, c. 33, Sched. 22, s. 2 (18).

Abandonment or spoilage of pelts

36. (3) A hunter or trapper who kills a furbearing mammal shall not abandon the pelt or permit the pelt to be spoiled or destroyed. 1997, c. 41, s. 36 (3).

Schedule 1
FURBEARING MAMMALS


Common Name

Badger, American; Beaver; Bobcat; Coyote; Fisher; Fox, Arctic; Fox, Grey; Fox, Red (all colour phases); Lynx; Marten; Mink; Muskrat; Opossum; Otter; Raccoon; Skunk, Striped; Squirrel, Red; Weasel, Least; Weasel, Long-tailed; Weasel, Short-tailed (Ermine); Wolf


This is from the Regulation 665 for ONT
134. A hunter who is licensed or authorized to kill a furbearing mammal is exempt from subsection 36 (3) of the Act and may abandon a pelt or permit a pelt to be spoiled or destroyed if the pelt is of no commercial value. O. Reg. 665/98, s. 134.

To me this means:
A) I dont have to eat the meat of any animal listed in Sch 1 and can permit it to spoil
B) I can abandon the pelt of any animal in Sch 1 it is has no commercial value.

Perfectly clear.


That's fabulous! but not what I was getting at. Just wondering what people did with the carcass. By the sounds of it most use it as bait or crow feed. Fair enough, Thanks for the info guys! Not gonna feel as bad about leaving it out.

Anyone have any links or information regarding tanning your own pelt? Brain tanning still a Viable method for quality garment fur?
 
ya, what the law says and what people actually do are two different things. I tend to not always agree with the MNR. Too each their own. :cheers:
but generally speaking if you can use it, use it, if not then don't fret about it.
 
Cajun Coyote recipe

Cajun Coyote

INGREDIENTS:
* 2 cups vegetable oil
* 2 tablespoons Cajun seasoning
* 2 tablespoons dried Italian-style seasoning
* 2 tablespoons lemon pepper
* garlic powder to taste
* 2lbs of fresh thawed coyote meat - pounded to 1/2 inch thickness

DIRECTIONS:

1. In a large shallow dish, mix the oil, Cajun seasoning, Italian seasoning, garlic powder, and lemon pepper. Place the coyote meat in the dish, and turn to coat with the mixture. Cover, and refrigerate for 1/2 hour.
2. Preheat the grill for high heat.
3. Lightly oil the grill grate. Drain coyote, and discard marinade. Place coyote on hot grill and cook for 6 to 8 minutes on each side, or until juices run clear.
 
Cajun Coyote

INGREDIENTS:
* 2 cups vegetable oil
* 2 tablespoons Cajun seasoning
* 2 tablespoons dried Italian-style seasoning
* 2 tablespoons lemon pepper
* garlic powder to taste
* 2lbs of fresh thawed coyote meat - pounded to 1/2 inch thickness

DIRECTIONS:

1. In a large shallow dish, mix the oil, Cajun seasoning, Italian seasoning, garlic powder, and lemon pepper. Place the coyote meat in the dish, and turn to coat with the mixture. Cover, and refrigerate for 1/2 hour.
2. Preheat the grill for high heat.
3. Lightly oil the grill grate. Drain coyote, and discard marinade. Place coyote on hot grill and cook for 6 to 8 minutes on each side, or until juices run clear.

I'd try it.

Last coyote I ate was stewed. Lean, fairly tough and very bland. Definitely fit for human consumption however. Very similar to lynx.
 
Sounds fabulous with grouse or rabbit, Not so sure I would ever be brave enough to try yote. It would take a lot of convincing.
 
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