Carrying a pellet pistol while hunting?

I've used a 1322 for years and killed a lot of grouse with it. Make sure you dont carry it concealed. Killed a lot of grouse timber cruising in the fall. With the old crossman pellets loaded backwards (cavity first), they make an awesome hollow point. Generally shot through the wing junction or head.

That being said - I would probably now go with a 177 for a higher velocity - the 22 doesnt generate that much.

DONT use CO2 - doesnt give constant or much velocity in lower temperatures (mid 40's)
 
Chas said:
I've used a 1322 for years and killed a lot of grouse with it. Make sure you dont carry it concealed. Killed a lot of grouse timber cruising in the fall. With the old crossman pellets loaded backwards (cavity first), they make an awesome hollow point. Generally shot through the wing junction or head.

That being said - I would probably now go with a 177 for a higher velocity - the 22 doesnt generate that much.

DONT use CO2 - doesnt give constant or much velocity in lower temperatures (mid 40's)
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I'll try and remember to not hunt with a CO2 gun when it's REALLY f**kING HOT out.
 
B, I'd bet money he was talking mid 40's FAHRENHEIT. There are ways of saying "Dude, I think you mistyped something there." Don't need to be a #### about it.
 
I use a Crosman 2240 single shot bolt action CO2 pistol.
Shots have to be close and chickens must be shot in the head to stop the risk of losing them.
10 yards is about the maximum I'll shoot.

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Norton said:
No it's not, and I'm curious what would make you think it is.
It's perfectly legal to hunt small game/grouse with a pellet gun in Alberta, including a pellet handgun of less than 500 fps.
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In the General Prohibitions section of the hunting regs, it says no pistols or revolvers to take any game. Now, the CO's I've met tended to be somewhat clearminded on the interpretation of such statements. The ones you know may feel differently.

If you have info to the contrary, I'd like to see the source.

As I read it, a guy is OK using something like a 2289 Carbine, but not a 2240 or 1322 pistol. It does not say that a non-firearm (aka: under 500 fps pellet pistol) would be exempt from the prohibition.

You got more info?


Cheers
Trev
 
trevj said:
You got more info?
Cheers
Trev
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I have a letter from Alberta SRD Fish and Wildlife saying it is OK, I'll try to post it tomorrow.

I think the response I received is clearer than this response from SRD in an Alberta Outdoorsman thread:
http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=17722

Good Morning and thank you for your inquiry.

A licensed hunter can use a pellet gun to hunt grouse during an open season in Alberta; there isn't a regulation covering minimum muzzle velocity.

The wildlife regulation states that pistols and revolvers can not be used to hunt wildlife; however, as long as your air pistol has a muzzle velocity less than 500 ft per second (relating to the federal definition of a firearm), and it is only used to hunt upland game birds, then there is no concern over its use.

As a caution, there are aspects of firearm storage and possession that may apply to your pellet gun based on the maximum velocity and the activities it is used for. For more information on firearms issues, please refer to Canadian Firearms Centre website at:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/air_gun-arme_air-eng.htm

Sincerely
PIEOP Information Centre
Sustainable Resources Development
 
Norton -

thanks for posting that - I had wondered how long I had been "breaking the law" per waderow's misinformation, shooting the odd grouse or gopher with a pellet gun... glad to see I was on the right track all along.

-M
 
That's pretty good info to have, that.

Recent? Like, someone that still works there's opinion, or policy?

Doc M, gophers ain't game, so not a worry there.

Maybe it's time to do some tune-up work to one of the old toys...

Cheers
Trev
 
I hunt rabbits mostly with a winchester rifle and always carry a pellet gun for when they have been hit with the rifle and just need a bit extra.

Saves me bullets
 
trevj said:
You got more info?
Trev
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Norton said:
I have a letter from Alberta SRD Fish and Wildlife saying it is OK, I'll try to post it tomorrow.
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This is the letter I have from SRD.
I asked them this question 10 years ago, my how time flies.

From: ###x
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 10:09AM
To: infocent@env.gov.ab.ca
Subject: Pellet handgun grouse hunting

Dear Sir/Madam,
I have a question regarding Alberta general hunting regulations.
I am interested in carrying, for the purpose of hunting grouse, a pellet handgun.

The pellet handgun in question has a muzzle velocity of less than 500 fps.
(450 fps actually) and would seem in my opinion to not fall into the category of a pistol or revolver as per the Federal firearms act.

Can I legally carry this pellet handgun for the purpose of hunting grouse in Alberta?

Any assistance in answering this question would be appreciated.

Best Regards,
###x


From: (name removed by Norton due to possible FOIP issues)
To: <###x>
Cc: (names removed by Norton due to possible FOIP issues)
Subject: FW: Pellet handgun grouse hunting
Date: March 29, 2000 12:04 PM

###x;
Our policy interpretation on the use of a pellet handgun to hunt upland game birds in Alberta allows the use of one so long as it has a velocity under 500 f.p.s.

By the way, this weapon (even if rated under 500 f.p.s.) is still a firearm, however, as any barrelled weapon capable of discharging a projectile is still technically a firearm. So long it is not rated over 500 f.p.s though, we see it as being exempt from registration as well from falling into the restricted or prohibited categories in federal law as you point out.

(name removed by Norton due to possible FOIP issues)
Regulations Officer
Enforcement Field Services Division
Natural Resources Service – Petroleum Plaza
9915-108 Street
Edmonton, Alberta T5K 2G8
 
In BC a "pellet pistol" is in fact a handgun and a firearm as defined by the BC Hunting and trapping regulations...... as such it is unlawful/illegal to use here for hunting.
 
A pistol is a handgun. Any dictionary could give the same answer.
IMHO, the Ontario hunting regulation define any hunting equipment firearm (a bow as well). The fact that you don't have to carry a permit and register it does not ensure you the right to hunt with a pistol.

I don't like the rule but it seems logical according to the premise that anything used in hunting is a firearm.
 
"...in Ontario it is legal then..." Yep, but small game only and only with good pellets. Must be under 500 fps too. Page 21 of the Ontario hunting regs.
 
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