Carrying Rifle While Scouting?

Gatehouse said:
I take a gun moe often than not. Why not? I like guns.:evil:
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me too. Last summer my gf wanted to go check out some agate trail, so I went along. Gave me a reason to pack the 8mm Mag :) It was late July, I was not worried that anybody was going to assume I was hunting moose
 
"While I am a law biding citizen, and I think I am not doing anything against the law, at the end -My life is more important than any law in the world."

+1

I should say as well, my 12g is a mossy 500 with a pistol grip. As with Kaka its compact and east to carry around.
 
hmmm, I usually carry no matter what when im in the bush. I have made some inquires in another forum I am part of asking for input from MNR enforcement guys in Ontario. I will post back when I get a reply.
 
Ok

Just got some information from MNR. Now this is for Ontario but what he said is that there is no specific section of legislation that deals with carrying a firearm off season. It boils down to one queston; Why are you carrying the firearm? He suggested that in Ontario there is pretty much an open season for "something" all year but with limitations on calibre you may have some explaining to do about carrying a 30-06 for partridge.

On the topic of "carrying for protection" it comes down to one thing. Where you are and how you articulate yourself. They said that on a lot of these topics you are "guilty till proven innocent" but if you are in an area where there are bears or some other predatory animal it wouldn't be a difficult sell to say you are carrying for protection but again it comes down to articulation when you are dealing with the CO.

They suggested that they encourage the use of bear spray as it is easier to use under stress and more likely to work. This I have a tough time with! I agree that under stress your fine motor skill goes and the chance of you landing a kill shot in close quarters under stress is not in your favor and that the spray is easier and more likely to deter the animal ....or so the studies say.....but it's not for me

To sum it all up they had no definitive answer for me. If you get stopped by MNR I would suggest having a rehearsed and polished answer for doing what you are doing and worse comes to worse you have to go and explain yourself to a JP. We say at work it is better to be judged by twelve then carried by six! Me personally, I would carry and will continue to carry, I have been in enough stress situations that I am fairly confident in my abilites with a firearm and could make it count if I had to. Whether you are is something you will have to decide for yourself.

The complete Conservation legislation is available on e-laws
 
Ok I just went threw the online MNR regulations and I must be mistaken since I could not find it?? I was positive there was no hunting in ont from a certain date in june to aug 15th but I guess i'm wrong. Sorry for the confusion!

Fuzy who did you talk to at the MNR? I think we have the same CO... He's a prick btw lol, he runs the bear wise program too, go figure..
 
Jimbobob08 said:
Ok I just went threw the online MNR regulations and I must be mistaken since I could not find it?? I was positive there was no hunting in ont from a certain date in june to aug 15th but I guess i'm wrong. Sorry for the confusion!

Fuzy who did you talk to at the MNR? I think we have the same CO... He's a prick btw lol, he runs the bear wise program too, go figure..
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I think that refers to North of the French river



The biggest variable is the CO..........

Hope you never run into Wendy's ilk....
 
Yeah I found what I was talking about, its under small game. "Note that a small game
licence is not valid in northern Ontario and parts of central
Ontario (as shown on Map 2, pp 8-9) from June 16 to
August 31."

Sorry for any confusion!!
 
cdngunner said:
Whats wrong with sharing it with the rest of us.........
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Because I am not going to argue with a bunch of guys from Ontario about carrying a rifle in Alberta, that is where the person who started the thread was asking about(even though he never stated it). Our laws are very different.
 
Jimbobob08 said:
Fuzy who did you talk to at the MNR? I think we have the same CO... He's a prick btw lol, he runs the bear wise program too, go figure..
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It was one of the guys at their enforcement unit.....

As far as the specific CO goes..... you are very correct that is the key!!
 
I beleive coyotes are open year round in southern Ontario.

Bear protection wise, in the crown woods in Eastern Ontario it's not unusual to run into a bear's secluded "private garden". Nobody's business but the bear's, but having your firearm along may help you come out as healthy as you went in.
 
I've been checked in Northern Sask, and told the CO that my shottie was for defense, and my 10-22 was for plinking. Showed him my paperwork, joked around a bit, and they were on their way. The only issue the older CO had was that we were technically in a recreational zone (abandon DND camp ground), and thus shouldn't have loaded firearms in the campsite. If I didn't crash so often, I'd sling my short shottie across my back when trail riding...but i do, so i don't :)
Same trip, i ended up having to rescue a buggy with my truck, slid off the trail and had to walk about 5 miles back to the camp site...in the dark...sure wished I had my shottie then.
 
I have carried a rifle many times while I was out quading / scotting and have never had any issues I know the Fish Cops did get a little excited and wanted to check my gun to see if it was loaded while I was carrying it on my quad but hey thats ok I know you can't have it loaded while riding on the quad. After opening the action for the officers and he when his own way. He did ask me why I had it I told him it was my insurance policy/problem solver if I got lost. He kind of laughed and when on his own way.
 
I generally carry something, usually a 410, 22 or 17hmr. I always carry my small game tag as well to avoid any hassels. In reality that last time I spoke to a MNR CO in the field was around 1984. I never see them anymore.
 
crazy_davey said:
Because I am not going to argue with a bunch of guys from Ontario about carrying a rifle in Alberta, that is where the person who started the thread was asking about(even though he never stated it). Our laws are very different.
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I dont think anybody was arguing. I believe it is a question a lot of people from all over this country have.

And with the rest of the provinces becoming more like Ontario, it might be good to know whats coming in the future:D
 
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